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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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a.king21

Rick's latest video: and they're getting longer -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiK0IktPWe4


And they are free -
I haven't watched it yet.....................................................

rickfriedrich

I'm not sure how this forum works in reference to the numbers and letters above the link are. I'm assuming that is some thread on this forum about that subject.
While I was around when that was filmed I choose to not make any statements about these kinds of stories because they are a long the lines of "he said, she said" and where are any replications of this? This ends up being just another story-telling matter. When I had my shop in Hayden Idaho all sorts of characters would show up at any time and so I heard all the stories you can imagine and more. Some stories were real but you could see most of these people (and I'm talking about big names to) were given over to exaggerated stories. I really haven't found anyone in that huge body of people (many of which were old friends of John) that gave me confidence of being very careful to be accurate in their judgments about history. It was like a bunch of old retired people talking about old stories that had been retold (like photocopies) over and over again until they changed into something else. John was the prime example of such storytelling. And along the lines of what I said earlier today I eventually came up with an estimation of John which I think was a fair assessment. I figured about 85% of what John said was not true and was in the way of him just speculating/pontificating/joking (although he wasn't much of a joker). And I think about 15% of the time he was dead on. He had a look in his eye at such times that was clear and I didn't find it to be wrong information. I have studied micro expressions and body language over the years and made these observations. I think everyone in his life would have agreed with this. So there was a lot of filler verbal diarrhea that we all had to hear and which only a few people called him out on. His wife was one of them and as we would go out to eat every Friday as a family special night whenever John would try to pull something over beyond his knowledge she would put him in his place. "Fat Larry" would do this a well when he sometimes came over. Gary would do that daily but in more of a joking sense. Anyway, I can go through all the videos and can generally determine when he was in that truth and accurate mode and when he was just talking like he was with the boys at the bar. And that's what the Conventions became after my final 2011 meeting. Even at that meeting John mystified things, and also at the 2010 meeting about the Ferris wheel. But after that the meetings were at his bar. That's how I last remember him, drinking more and more. The video series was largely of such stories that should not be trusted. Yes because he was a liar as we can see about his claim about the window motor being his invention from 1971. But also about many minor stories. So it is impossible for the public to sort through all of his words and stories to be able to tell what is true from what is his guessing, to what is his exaggeration, to what is flat out lie where he was intending to deceive.

I stopped watching the video series probably around half way. I was there for many of them, and Tony asked for my help with some of the early ones. But I knew that John was just rambling nonsense after a being there for some time. Unfortunately Tony really didn't know John and he also fell for all these stories. Now he is burned for putting the 1971 false lying statement on the front cover of his publication. That's not want he wanted to be known for. John was convincing storyteller. I often went out to dinner with them when Tony came to film. John was talking it up more than ever.

Maybe the worst example of this was ongoing over the years with what Gary would call the "voodoo box" which sat under the bench or on the desk for a good three years. This was supposedly from John Cejka. John Bedini actually did two videos on this I believe. I never watched them because why would I bother to? He actually said that if a picture of someone was placed in the box and he put a spider over the picture then the person would be bitten in a way that the spider would be proportionately the same size to the picture and thus they would be killed. Of course, like the Lockerage device, he never demonstrated anything of all that nonsense he would say in that 85% of the time bar talk ramble. Gary used many colorful words to call him an idiot for spewing such nonsense. So yes, I heard it all from too many people in that camp to mention. Including Tom Bearden to was also given to storytelling. And I called him and his best friend out on doing that. I told them they watched too much star Trak. These guys were all really given over to sci fy and conspiracy theory. It was an indulgence they could not resist. Believe that which you assume to be true, that which sounds like a good story.

The problem is that many of these people were no joke in their accomplishments and many things were real. So it was hard to separate the real from the stories. I got to hear all of it and so have a lot of inside information. But I don't trust any of these people that I can remember. Every one of them with Bedini connections was given over to that or to believing such stories. I had access to a lot of stuff and even helped John copy all of the Cejka files and many other things over the years.

So here you have some good information and the rest a bunch of stories that you could never be able to determine what was real because it was bar talk that was meant to be entertaining. I guess I tolerated it because I was trying to learn anything that may be of value. But eventually when I realized everything I could not stomach that foolishness at all. So that is why I cannot even watch the DVDs. But at least DVD7 was sound and worthy. There are a few others that probably are the same at times in the videos. But I see that one was done on the Tesla Switch as he falsely called it. Obviously he never warned anyone that it kills the batteries (yet I showed from a clip of him at my 2010 Convention admitting the Watson machine killed the batteries because of the same process of switching rapidly back and forth between charge and load).

The video is of that storytelling nature. Maybe no one will ever known how many exaggerations he made in that video. Did he really have the parts. Someone posted a statement that they were merely the parts of a failed attempt. Why would you do a video and not show how to do it? This is prime entertainment for conspiracy theorists. But those of us who hate speculation find no interest. I work with certain things that are practical.

So there were many items laying around for years with stories attached to them. Peter is probably the only one left who would know the significance of them. What you have to go back to is that short clip I recently posted from John in 1984
https://youtu.be/KJlcQc8CrRY
Listen to every word. Notice how he says at the end of my selected portion that after the 1984 book he then sought to find motors that could do that. So all the claims that he knew these things from his service years contradict that candid admission. The truth was Bearden was someone who had access to all this stuff from his military years. And many of these crossed over into that area. So that is why this is all mixed up as well. You are going have lots of disinformation because of that. Bearden passed a lot of stuff on to John in those early years. John wasn't an inventor of any of it. He just was around a lot of people who really could do amazing things. John helped a few of them but I didn't find him to really have any exceptional skills besides storytelling. Yes he made some nice looking prototypes and fancy classic hotrods from the ground up. But he had help doing those as well.

Anyway, I tried to answer the bigger question that pertains to all of John's storytelling and all those kind of people associated with him from years back. And maybe you can understand why I insist upon purity in this research and don't tolerate assumptions or belief for or against claims without sufficient reason. Such storytelling and rumors and assumptions just waste everyone's time, money and faith. These people use such as a tool to be considered cool, or in the know, or whatever. Someone just said on my youtube video I just posted about Aaron Mirakami's lies in the comments that these guys are enabled by everyone who feeds off of the gossip and bar talk. I see that I contributed to promoting Bedini so that is why I am trying to undo that damage now. But looking back I see that all this was just part of the government's continued agenda to create the conspiracy class of people/movement where the free energy people are just a sub group. Each section/sector has it's people to guide the populace in a given direction. John and others were examples of that as far as their fruit shows. Because in the end, after years of doing this full time, the result is exactly what the establishment would want: the vast majority in chaos unsure of how to be energy independent while feeling good that they were entertained by stories that served no practical purpose. I don't speculate as to what people's specific motives were for pushing that agenda. But it should be obvious by now that there was a clear agenda. Cross that line against such by promoting clarity and showing real progress and you will get the treatment I go or worse.

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 23, 2019, 06:07:21 PM
Mr Rick Friedrich,can you fill us in on this device please 

re tinman link=topic=12736.msg480799#msg480799 date=1460730080]

http://energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc14/index.html

rickfriedrich

I think I watched that yesterday  :P It's game over for Aaron finally. He sunk himself. The only way out is to admit that Bedini was a liar as well. Anyway, if you don't care about these people and their disinformation in the free energy community then don't bother with the video.
Quote from: a.king21 on June 23, 2019, 06:36:23 PM
Rick's latest video: and they're getting longer -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiK0IktPWe4
And they are free -
I haven't watched it yet.....................................................

rickfriedrich

Mario, I accept your statements, but I was just responding to your words. Perhaps some people think they believe in OU is possible but my point is that they have put themselves into a belief system that makes it impossible to experience it. If you really believe the things you said then you cannot experience OU. Whether I was talking about you directly or by what your implied or about the others, what is important is that people be clear what they believe about power meters, resonance gains, and related subjects. Because what I see is some people acting like they believe in OU but really they are just trying to disprove it. Or I have found the reverse of that. Many skeptics actually attack believers in the inner hope that they can answer their questions.

Ok, it is important to closely examine what I wrote a few hours ago about the coil and current on the second loop. In people's wild and crazy panic for free energy they run so fast to get it that they don't look at the details or care about anything that isn't a certain amount of energy for their needs. In that craze to disregard the details. So looking at the details of what I shared we have to come to grips with the fact that the math does not add up. In mainstream understanding there is really no room for current to flow in reverse or do be able to do any real work across the charging battery. Therefore all the claims here is that any influence on the battery is merely apparent, or if it charges it charges as a consumable and ruins the battery, etc. Well that is crazy because we can replace the battery with a 100W LED and be blinded by the light. But my point is that we need to start where Walter Lewin former Physics at MIT left off. Yes go to war with that Electroboom fool. Again, the math covers the forward current. So any reverse flow can't be current or else you have a major problem with Kirchhoff and the total I the loop is more than the input current. Now this isn't current but it can cause current. Any recipient along that path can become charged as a negative resistor, but that isn't current charging. But if a battery or capacitor is such, it can output current in it's own loops with loads. So what I am pointing out is that you can measure current in those places with power meters but anything before that is not current. It is not important if some current comes through as much as the mainstream theory has no place for any useful energy to be there at all. The point to be settled upon by everyone before they can go anywhere at all with OU research with circuits is to admit what we see with the fan example. The regular fan circuit loop is a full loop where everything adds up. Now we add ANOTHER body by moving the diode to include the charging battery. This other body is not part of the primary loop but loosely associated with it. They hang out together ya know  8) Yet all the work done to and by the charging battery is now gain that cannot be accounted for by Kirchhoff and mainstream college level physics (apart form Lewin). And if you don't like batteries just put a big 100W LED module there to see for yourself. With a cap as it may blow out. So the fan runs as it did before but with this extra gain. Not more efficient but OU. Add a gate driver to the fets and increase the rate of change as we do in our motors and now you get even more gains in the output with greater efficiency on the primary side. Or again, make the buckboost inductor a motor in the same way. Or the resonance inductor in the tank a transmitter and/or motor and/or make the capacitor into a Stan water cell. Is anyone willing to admit these things? This is the first step people. When we add more (loving paths) loads to the regular circuitry, which is adding more "bodies" to the primary loop, we have more total output, significantly more. So the search on this forum for years has been right in front of you in so many electronics around you. Just think a little. Again, mainstream circuitry always ignores one side of the two. It either ignores the electrical production in the motors or the magnetic in inductors for electrical use.

So what I am saying is the math does not add up when you actually do both kinds of loads at the same time. And this is the basic thing you have to start understanding, stage 1, before you get to the more advanced stuff (which is actually more of the same along with some other things). So why doesn't anyone want to admit these things? No matter what prestige jargon twisted math is used, the bottom line is that if the fan now has a battery charging, or a light powered significantly, then we have real OU and a complete violation conservation showing as Lewin said, that Kirchhoff is only a special case of Faraday.

In your case you just need to get these things clear then. Lean less on your scope to tell you what is going on unless you want to use it for phasing. Remember, power measurement only tells you how fast you are killing the particular source charge in a loop. So what if there is no loop and your meter is showing power? And what if the source is not discharging? Haha then you throw a fit and run out of the room  >:( :'( :o

Once people get the basic Loving Paths idea of expanding the single body (selfish) loop to a many body sympathetic or symbiotic network with floating grounds then they will be ready for OU. But without that the are locked into only losses in the death circle. The idea in DVD7 is just creating additional loving paths along the one wire to the charging batter in the second loop of stage 1. The spiritual analogy works to drive the point home in more ways than one. Each node along that line can create additional loops or single wire outputs as/at nodes. This will automatically create limited gains. I have tons of inductors and transformers, chokes, and etc., at my shop and have put as much as I wanted along that path and there is no end. Without tuning it is not the same of course, but it is still very significant. But many of you will not even be interested in doing that because you have not settled the first point and got out of the matrix bondage of the monolithic closed loop. All your energy needs are found in this paragraph alone. You don't even need to do what Tesla did or what we do with the impedance matching resonance and be able to multiply as many loving paths networks as you desire.

As for any confusion from those earlier days. I have attempted to complete the SSG project. No the Aaron books don't properly address what is needed. The monopole geometry has nothing to do with what you need to understand. The magnets have nothing to do with it either. The exact parts used does not either. The trigger coil is not necessary either (even though it is another loving path loop with it's bifilar gains). What is necessary is to first understand the difference between a single (closed) and many (open) body system. And to use the impulse rather than constant current, sharp rate of change rather than gradual. Appreciate just that for what its worth and then DO MORE OF THE SAME loving paths for more sharing blessings! Never mind any parts until this is settled. Understand how it works and don't just play around hoping to stumble upon something with parts shuffling.

Now that was just with two wire loops. Same is done with one wire and no loop. This is chapter 2 in the book. Then chapter 3 is no wires... Chapter 4 (not of that Resonance book) is doing the same with magnetic loops... Once you see my Free energy Cheat Sheet you will see all the key themes and will be able to understand how all or most free energy systems work and why others don't. The mystery is over people. Then you will see how Patrick Keely changed the words and diagrams of all the systems he shows and will be able to make them work. Or which ones can't work and why.

Quote from: popolibero on June 23, 2019, 06:20:12 PM
Rick, ... slow down! I haven't been posting for a long time on this forum so please don't jump at me like this... Don't know what others here are up to, but you don't need to be on the defensive side and slap back at me as I'm surely not trying to insult you or not admit anything or acknowledge what you say. I accidentally checked the threads here and saw your post about DVD7 which is something that I had spent quite some time on years back because I was very interested in the one wire subject.
I think this time it's you who didn't read everything I wrote because I never said that I believe OU is impossible and that all I see or measure is about current, not at all! I believe in negative energy and that it converges to the loads and is different from our normal current. OK? Clear? I JUST said that after the negative event the coil also discharges some current, ok? That's it. There's no need to shout that I'm not admitting anything and that I may have an agenda... I perfectly know that the primary charges the coil which then becomes the source that charges the secondary, You may think I'm a complete beginner in building these circuits. I'm not, I've built them for the last 10 or more years, my circuits have rise/fall times of about 30 nanoseconds.
After the "big confusion" I quietly kept working on my own (and other projects) to figure things out by actually doing the experiments, but I never really had a chance to compare notes and ask someone with more experience in the SG matter the questions I asked you. Not everyone can invest as much time on this as you do. I'm not here to contradict you, I'm actually all ears, trying to learn more.


Mario

a.king21

.. Once you see my Free energy Cheat Sheet

Rick... where?