Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

Any mistakes in life and technology. I am sharing many of my mistakes and those of others so that others need not fall into any traps and waste time, money, and their faith.
I always appreciate prayer, even if people think I am in the wrong. I learn from other people's criticisms as well.

What mistakes would those be then ? 
I will get my religious bud'y to pray for you.

[rickfriedrich]

Nick,
You didn't consider what I said in the video demonstration or on this forum. It doesn't matter what I or anyone shows because anyone could be mistaken or fake a video, picture, or testimony claim. No matter what I show in the cyberworld it should not be believed as any kind of proof. This practice of believing things for or against claims on these forums is reckless. It is fine as giving information on how people may prove these things to themselves, and that is all I ever attempt to do. All I am seeking to do is enable people to help themselves. There is a big difference. I did a sensational video demonstration WHILE MAKING THIS VERY POINT. It was sort of a test to see people's reaction. I get zero response to that video here from those wanting to disbelieve my claims, while A posts a picture and people are all supportive. This is crazy don't you think? You want a meter showing zero, but you should not believe that until you can see your own meter zero. I have given everyone a means to see my claims proven, but I only do that in the real world. I am a teacher and will not teach falsely. That is I will not promote any belief in something that should never be believed. I watch you guys do this now and it is very concerning. You guys lack real-world experience to insist upon and expect belief about claims shown through pictures and video. I work with technicians and am one myself, and as such I know that what someone says over the phone, in word, or through picture and video is often not revealing the whole picture. You have to go there to see. Soooooo

if you assume the situation is how people tell you they think it is, especially in this research, you will usually be mistaken. I have 15 years in this. I know how easily people are mistaken. We are not just dealing with fakery but simple mistakes. And everyone here wants to assume their own bias. This is not real science at all. It is rash, sloppy, and foolish to assume all these things for or against claims. In the end I have to pick up the pieces of people who have wasted so much of their time and money and have lost their faith because of indulging in these kinds of assumptions.

Now if you want to do that I have given a video demonstrating over 80 coils powering loads, while showing you how that was just a small number that could be powered. I do not do that to prove anything to anyone, but just to show you what you can show yourself. So the lack of response to that from some of you reveals that no matter what I show you in video it will not matter. Notice the first remark about my first picture post was a scoff that there must be hidden wires. So that is why I agreed to the underlying doubt of that comment and pointed these things out about the nature of proper belief and proof. Why should that scoffer believe a picture? How does he know I didn't make mistakes that were not revealed by the picture? How can he judge whether or not it was faked? He can't.
So with A's pictures posted the other day. You guys love that, and you assume many things about the picture for or against what A believes he has demonstrated. So I brought up that as an example. I explained what we don't know from what he showed and said. There are many factors that could account for what we see in the picture. Each person wants to quickly assume many things according to what they want to believe about it. Those seeking OU can run with it and those doubting it can resist it. But I am neither for or against claims. I'm a realist having been at the center of all these kinds of claims online and off-line in the real world. These are games people.

What I'm getting at is that pictures and videos are no more believable than words. Ultimately pictures and videos have little content until descriptive words are added to it. Now I have given such pictures and videos showing meters at zero, devices self-running, etc. But these are just rejected by those who choose to disbelieve such demonstrations and believed by those who are inclined to believe them. I have learned that it doesn't settle what needs to be done here. It only fosters more of the same assumptions that eliminate proper scientific discussion and development. What is needed is for people to agree to stop assuming things for and against claims and hold any claim, testimony, revelation up as merely a hypothesis to be personally confirmed. But instead we have people accepting such testimony as fact and making conclusions about the real world as if they have good reason to do that. That is reckless and is the main reason why these forums will always fail. Look, all you have to do is NOT make conclusions about anything so presented here and then it would be fine. But the fact is I constantly see people assume a picture has proven minor points as if the reader can know all the details of the conditions and environment and the legitimacy of the testimony. This leads to countless judgments prematurely for or against claims. So people are over and under believing things and therefore it is all chaos and no real benefit. What is this so hard to admit people?

And why is self-running the only thing that is important? I have demonstrated live all forms of energy outputs for people to measure with or without self-running. I power motors, generators, heaters, inverters, incandescent bulbs that heat up, etc. But you will never be satisfied unless you do it yourself anyway.

Anyway, you don't get my point. You are only considering this from one side, as if only the skeptics are to be faulted for disbelieving claims here. But doesn't it apply both ways? Is it right to believe a claim anymore to disbelieve a claim? Why are you justified in believing this Nelson you mention? You prove this point to yourself in saying "Hopefully, Nelson's devices are not faked". Well it just so happens that I deal with countless people who have believed things that were faked on these forums. And others that were just mistakes. The classic examples are when people rapidly charge up a sulfated battery that has no real capacity and think they have something special. Or someone has a voltmeter that shows the voltage going up merely because the battery is dead and it gives a false reading. So people can be mistaken and really believe they are experiencing something special, and they can also fake things. So these forums promoting such practices that assume things foster so much needless confusion and chasing after this or that claim that wastes so much time, money and faith. This is why I feel this is more than just sloppy practice but is deliberately fostered for people to fail. This is probably why I get none of these old-timers backing me up on this. It is very revealing. Yet is it is a huge change of lifestyle to be a person of integrity and control your judgment from assuming what you want. Most people have no interest in living that way. So it is a spiritual problem as well. But everyone can see that it is a fundamental science problem. Without this sound practice all this is merely entertainment as fiction is preferred over due process.

You end with "better safe than sorry" and that is my point. Be safe and suspend your judgment. Do not assume anything and you will be safe. Don't conclude as a gamble hoping that something is real. Learn to evaluate all such claims as merely a possibility. Is that so hard to do? Is this unreasonable people?

  Rick:  I feel sorry for what you are going through. But, what we really need here is more proof that adding more and more coils, (hundreds), does not affect the input. And more importantly, does not affect the total brightness in a negative way.   If there really is more output than input, then this needs to be recycled, to self run the device. Until this is shown and proven, the negative speculation will continue. No amount of words and long explanations from you will change that.
   So, please SHOW it self running itself.   Not everyone believes that every OU device that are shown HERE are faked.
   Hopefully, Nelson's devices are not faked, and do self run. Although he won't admit it. Good call, for him. Better safe than sorry.

[NickZ]

    Rick:    Thanks for the reply.    Like I said, for people like me, who is are builders, and not just a speculating armchair forum posters, we need more proof in order to do what itsu is doing now. He is one of our best replicators, and if he can't show and replicate your circuit, then most likely none of us can. Is he doing something wrong, or what? Can you provide the needed info so that he can achieve what you say is possible?   No need to post long essays, just some critical technical info, and just avoid getting into any personal issues. They only distract from what we are trying to do. I am on your side, and not trying to antagonize you or anyone else, at all.
   BTW: The only reason I mention "Nelson" and his devices, is because, he is the only one on this forum that has shown a self running device. The ONLY one...
   In any case, I'm not here to discuss fakes, I'm here to replicate, and to build a working self running device.

[rickfriedrich]

But it is speculating when you assume any claims are to be believed. You don't get it Nick, you can't be shown a self-running device through the forum. Nelson did not show you or anyone a self-running device. You just assume he did, and you have no basis for that. Maybe it is real or maybe it is not. Same with everything Itsu. Why do you assume the words and pictures show you the reality? As far as I noticed when I initially looked at his postings some weeks back I found mistakes and assumptions and significant differences. But more importantly, your comments here, and those similar reveal a bigger problem. You have made him a person to evaluate a claim of another person. All this not in the real world but through cyberland. Why do you assume he is your "best replicators"? And notice your more disturbing belief: " if he can't show and replicate your circuit, then most likely none of us can." So you will conclude on a matter based upon the work of someone else who you cannot possibly be sure that their work is accurate over the internet. This is prejudice people, no matter if you start your email with the statement "without prejudice".
I have played this game before for years. Trying to troubleshoot over the internet is difficult because you need to be there.

Anyway, your expectations and practices are your own. You can't expect everyone to put themselves under that. Itsu is not actually replicating my claims. Now I have suggested what you can do apart from my kit, and that is fine. But Itsu has never attempted to replicate my kit yet. And you guys will never be able to disprove my claims through the internet. Nor will anyone else be able to prove them through the internet on the other hand.

This does not mean that I am not willing to help and give suggestions. But until your prejudice is admitted and overcome I ask, what does it really matter? In the end if someone makes a mistake or fakes something you guys will just believe what you want.

Now A has been giving some recommendations to Itsu and has also been optimistic about him succeeding. But I found several fundamental assumptions in his presentations and claims that prevent him from being able to do these experiments. And you guys are willing to dismiss something if he can't succeed in doing a certain requirement from you. Sounds like pseudoscience to me. This just confirms that those taking control of these forums are out to prevent true scientific research and to try and disprove claims while assuming the disproving claims.

Again, it would be completely different if we were all physically present. Itsu could do his work and we could all see the actual running of things and then go home and do it ourselves. You guys are just so accustomed to this fantasy internet existence that you confuse the real world with the unreal.

You expect me to come into a hostile environment and coach someone who is not even using my parts when I cannot know what he is really doing in the real world. So then I attempt to do this and what results? If you want such examples just go back to 2005-2008 on the groups and you will see that with thousands of people already. I have met many of these people and in the real world looked at their work. Guess what? It was always different than the pictures and videos shown.

Anyway, if these points were admitted and it wasn't such a hostile environment I would help people as you can see I do on YouTube and in the real world. But I am not about to fall into these traps you guys are setting with all your assumption that you are not willing to give an account for. Nor am I going to give hostile people help so that they can personally profit from things I have already told them how to do. Again, you insist upon doing one thing because you are merely looking for power meter readings. I have already given the power meter readings showing zero for years. Would that prove anything if I showed you this again?

I have a video from 4 years ago showing an hour long demonstration in front of many attendees of my Chicago meeting where my 4 pole was self-sustaining while running various loads. That is what you are expecting but what will it prove if you were not there? If Itsu did the same, what would it prove to you? If he SAID he couldn't do it what would that prove?

If you want any more help you have to agree to do real science. So far all this is science fiction fixation. You admit here that you do not care about real science but only want to conclude upon unverifiable claims. Change your prejudice method and we can actually do something constructive. But no, you just want to jump to the conclusions and limit yourself to throwing around pictures and numbers and claims. And where has it got you all these years? Nowhere! Ever assuming and hoping and wasting money and time. Well we never know what people are really doing in the real world do we?

So what do you want Nick? Science or Science fiction? Reality or Fantasy? Free Energy or Gossip? Scientists or Patsies? Hypotheses or Prejudice?

    Rick:    Thanks for the reply.    Like I said, for people like me, who is are builders, and not just a speculating armchair forum posters, we need more proof in order to do what itsu is doing now. He is one of our best replicators, and if he can't show and replicate your circuit, then most likely none of us can. Is he doing something wrong, or what? Can you provide the needed info so that he can achieve what you say is possible?   No need to post long essays, just some critical technical info, and just avoid getting into any personal issues. They only distract from what we are trying to do. I am on your side, and not trying to antagonize you or anyone else, at all.
   BTW: The only reason I mention "Nelson" and his devices, is because, he is the only one on this forum that has shown a self running device. The ONLY one...
   In any case, I'm not here to discuss fakes, I'm here to replicate, and to build a working self running device.

[a.king21]

Re Rick:


My comments on some of the comments.


Yes I am guilty for highlighting Rick on this and another forum - but not BEFORE I had checked him out.  I listened and watched and analysed over 50 hours of Rick's videos and spoke to him extensively on the phone  before I came to my conclusions.
Specifically he had done the Benitez experiments as I had.  I was talking about Benitez 5 or 6 years ago on these forums and the posts are still there.
I checked out Rick's information about the Bedini and derivative systems.  I will post the new information at the end.
Then I saw he had replicated much of Don Smith. I talked with him extensively about the Don Smith process and  book.  He told me repeatedly that I did not have to buy the book - all the info was already on line ( mostly).  I then realized that he knew what he was talking about - and from a practical not theoretical point of view.
I bought the book and am glad I did.  He has demystified Don Smith.
I checked Rick out on the Energetic forum and read all the vile personal criticism - but not one contradiction that was viable of an electrical nature.  I phoned Rick up extensively to double check him out.  I even found out he had a convention in Canada and rang him there.  I knew positively then that Rick was being lied about and defamed. (They claimed he was an illegal)
I checked out the products for sale on that forum:  Only books and dvds. Benfr started a forum on Rick's Resonance induction  kits on Energetic. Vitriol followed - so I posted a sarcastic comment that I would love to buy a Don Smith kit from them.  Obviously they were incapable of anything like that.  The only 2 people worth following on that forum are Peter Lindeman and Eric Dollard.
I started a thread on Overuityresearch about Rick's kit.  Vile vitriol followed. It was so bad I had to close the thread down.  It got so bad that 2 members resigned.
So here is a summary of what Rick has taught me through personal contact and his extensive videos online.
1 There are  4 types of electricity:  Dc, Ac, oscillatory and impulse.
2 Impulse technology is Tesla's technology and is the one to be considered for OU
3 The Heavyside component:  Impulse technology in the Bedini systems makes extensive use of the Heavyside component. This calls into question your battery placement and connecting wires. You can easily mess up the magnetic fields by sloppy arrangement of the components.
4 Don Smith patented this effect and called it the Don Smith effect.
5 The Bedini SG and other systems and derivatives use Tesla's impulse technology and can charge a bank of batteries from one input  (Who knew that?). (BTW I had already done this over 5 years ago)
6 Tesla's one wire system creating nodes. (Video 7).  Of course I knew about it - just never realized it's significance.
7 Resonance is a gain. 
7 b Rick's use of the gate driver without the transistor to mimic somewhat Tesla's impulse technology.
7c Using this impulse technology at Resonance (EEs vehemently disagree with this even though they know virtually noting  about impulse technology at resonance)
7d Seeing the power draw REDUCE as more loads are added. ( phase mirroring effect).
8 Don Smith:  The Kapanadze system and the Don Smith system are the same principle. Don Smith 1994 - Kapanadze 2004.  Don Smith was talking to the Russian academy of sciences - Kapanadze also (I have been told Kapanadze bribed an official of the Russian academy).
8 Back to Bedini: Solid state SSG. We all put welding rods or iron insulated garden wire in our trifilar coils. Guess what?  Doesn't work at 27 khz.  You need a ferrite core.  Nice sneaky  trick by Bedini fooling us all.
Don Smith:
1st process  HV HF impulse technology.
Next 1/4 wave up or down.(Resonance process)
Next pulsed DC through High speed High voltage rectifiers
Now the tricky bit which people don't get: FREQUENCY REDUCTION TO 120 HZ in the US. (60 up 60 down)
This is the most critical part  where each reduction in frequency is an increase in power.
Those who criticise this process because they are radio hams don't understand the following: Radio is AC with a superimposed signal on the carrier wave. This is Tesla impulse tech at resonance.   It is also converted to pulsed DC.  The use of the US radio league nomograph to get the frequency reduction is a Don Smith discovery that works. ( I have not tested this yet).
Kapanadze also uses frequency reduction in a different way.  He uses a 50hz 220 volts generator to superimpose the mains frequency on top of his resonant Don Smith frequency to power his loads. This is done in the grenade coil.
There is obvioulsy much more in the  detail re the different set ups in Rick's videos and and online comments.



So in conclusion I have one request:  Treat the resource of having Rick converse with us on this forum as a treasure which no-one else on the planet has . Engage your brain before typing nasty comments. Ask reasonable technical questions and get your soldering iron out and DO SOME EXPERIMENTS and contribute something instead of just taking.
I have done my bit.  I have brought you aquarium 2 and I have shown you some results of experiments.
Please  do as much as I  have tried to do and be nice to Rick.
Please.