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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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itsu

Quote from: itsu on June 22, 2019, 04:31:55 PM
FWIW, i am still working on this and build myself 6 new coils.

The picture shows the 6 new coils compared to the 5 older smaller ones.

The new ones measure:

6cm diameter
52 turns 0.71mm (AWG 21)
144uH @ 100Khz
0.4 Ohm.

Different compared to the old coils is that the 5nF capacitor is parallel, so we have a parallel LC instead
of a series LC we had. (the big drive coil still is a series LC).
Resonance frequency stays around 180Khz.

Looks like this parallel LC (high impedance, high voltage, low current @ resonance) gives a better match as
the 3W led (after FWB rectification by 4x Bat 46 and buffer cap 220uF) looks stronger.

Seems like i have to build 4 more of those coils to see any effect.

Itsu

Doing some tests with the 6 new coils, not using the gate driver, just the FG (signal passing through the gate driver).

Trying to find out when the coils pick up the highest amount of energy.

Seems either in the middle when parallel to the big coil, or top and bottom when perpendicular to the  big coil.

Big coil was loaded with my P5100 HV probe (2.75pF/10Mohm = @ 180Khz 312Kohm load).
Q seems 3.5Vpp in, 138Vpp out = 39

Video here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtiTYHEehBw

Next things would be to:

# hook up all 6 satellite coils in a ring and charge the supercap stack (with a 5W lamp load) to
  see if they are capable of supplying at least the same amount of current as being inputted into the big coil (at
  same 12V voltage).

# Play with severall coils "coupled" to each other to see if that could increase output without extra loading the input.
  So building an extra 4 coils.

Itsu


seaad

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 25, 2019, 09:59:02 PM
This is not a disputed point. The radiation goes out and covers about 70% of the area around the coil. This is a common thing which you can see in tuning coils. Again, you just have to play around with the coils and see for yourself. That is one reason for the kit  ;)

This IS a disputed point when it comes to the mutual angles of the input and output coils!
Not the cover of radiation.

My picture below shows the principal of coil couplings in old days radios.

Regards Arne

rickfriedrich

You really have to go back and look at Tesla's circuits and read what he said about how this works. Until you get the idea you will be looking for certain parts arrangements to hopefully stumble upon something. That just will never work. "throwing a circuit together" just doesn't work. It first clicks in the mind and then you can make it work many ways.
There are more than several options there. The transverse gives you the option to expand the network.
Grounded input supply is different. That is not what we are doing here. It is not impossible to do but is not this. The idea is that you don't need a supply once it is set up. Grounding is a very significant influence, especially where grounded...
What I said about the first coil is only the basic level testing not tuned/resonance.
Equal or balance is important and remains to be understood.
There is matching impedance with the load and matching with the input--two different things.

Quote from: popolibero on June 26, 2019, 02:49:02 AM
Rick
I'm not just thinking about this, but before I throw a circuit together there are some things I need to visualise in my mind.
you said: "BTW, some of the nodes in the box are what I have shown already. But the ones with the big 100W LEDs are other arrangements." Maybe theses arrangements are the transverse ones, air-grounded by "what surrounds the box"... ;)
Say I run a solid state SG as my one wire impulse generator, do you see a problem if it is run from a grounded power supply to make these experiments, or even run by a battery but the fet driving circuit is run from a little 15V power supply? Does this create problems to be connected to the ground on the input? Else I just run everything from the battery.
Also, from the video you posted, I see it doesn't matter if the energizer coils are small, but you said that the first coil on the one wire transmission determines the output of the following ones, so, at least the first one better have some mass, correct? It's probably best to make them all equal to get them resonant at the same frequency...
So the impedances give the best results when in resonance, and you also said impedance matched. Do you mean matching the impedance of the tanks to get resonance, or matched impedance from the resonating impedance to the load, like a step down secondary?
thanks,
Mario

citfta

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 25, 2019, 09:55:14 PM
Carrol that would be more than puzzling indeed. I remember correcting someone on that. So unless I wrote directly opposite then I don't know why you think I confirmed that.
Let's be clear here:
1. The input voltage stays the same on my power supply.
2. The amperage goes down when we load it down most of the time. It can go up under certain circumstances as well.
3. I don't recall saying the coil voltage goes up with added coils, but it can (WHILE THE INPUT VOLTAGE STAYS THE SAME) if you are in a phase mirroring situation and so the coil is also a receiver.
4. Itsu is doing something else, not my setups.
5. Yes, gate driver means just that. It is not driving a gate however, but merely switching directly. It is 12A so it is capable. But the significance is that it creates a fast rate of change. We see the circulating voltage go from 250V without it to 1300V in the kit. The Impulse energy is what we are focusing on besides the oscillating energy gains from resonance. Both are amplifying energy process. Obviously yet to be proved to most people here who haven't yet experimented and are looking to others to confirm such things for them.


Rick, someone who saw one of your demonstrations said that in your demonstration you had to remove your scope because you were afraid of blowing it because the voltage being measured was getting up to 5000 volts.  When I asked you about that you said the probe was measuring the voltage on the primary coil.  That is why I asked about it again.  How can you get  5000 volts across the primary if it is being powered by 12 volts?  So what circuit were you using that would do that?  And the second part of the high-lighted sentence doesn't even make sense.  How can the voltage go up on the primary coil while the input voltage remains the same?


What are you calling circulating voltage?  And where are you measuring it?  A simple schematic of your circuit would help explain a lot.  Or does someone have to buy your kit to see the circuit?

EDIT:  Itsu was kind enough to PM me with information explaining the high voltage.  I was confused about how the gate driver was driving the coil.  Thanks Itsu for the clarification.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Jeg

Rick
Thanks a lot for sharing your valuable experience here. Also many thanks to A.King for his dedication and his great idea to invite Rick Frederic himself to this forum.

Looks like that you have already covered a lot of things for someone to start this journey. What it needs now I guess is the active personal involvement from the part of the experimenter.

There are many questions yet but as time passes everything finds its place.

Many people just watching quietly not because there is no appreciation of what is being presented, but more as a respect to you and to what you are trying to do. But I am sure you already know, that many people right now are already trying with real bench work to apply the new ideas that have been brought here by you.
Just continue your fascinating work.

Best Regards
Jeg