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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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rickfriedrich

Hi W,
Let's get some things straight. I don't view people attacking me as much as people attacking ideas. Some of these people are only pretending to attack and disbelieve these things merely to get more information out of people. This is what a troll does. There are mean and also nice trolls, for they do whatever works best to complete their mission. You cannot assume anyone is who they claim to be as some are nice and supportive for a long time as part of their cover. Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but I have seen this for years and very close up. I have even been invited by some bigger names in free energy into occultic covens where they do black magic. You all know I have many stories I can share about many people and things like this.

What you are addressing actually shows how naïve you (who are not part of the control/suppression people) have been in merely assuming that people are who they say they are and that their claims are also true. So you just have proved my point by reference to all the loss and disillusionment of many people. But this forum is only a small slice of the free energy community of which I converse with from day to day. I have conversed with thousands of people through email, phone and in person who have been so burned in these ways. So now you may be able to get my point that prevents this from continuing. And that is by bringing to everyone's attention that you cannot prove anything over the internet. That is not just referring to people's claims, but to people's motives and testing, etc. I have had many nice people, for example, in my forums contributing only to be revealed to be a troll and sophisticated disrupter. One method was simply to drown out an important posting with useless noise right after I posted something. So create another meaningless conversation to detract from everyone noticing what is far more important. Very effective tool. But I know of hundreds of such tactics that have been used. Some of them are being used right here right now. It is also in the way of whatever it take to create doubt no matter how ridiculous. And these suggestions may transfer over to non-trolls who spread such doubt as well so it is not always easy to tell who is who. For example, suggesting that the negatively charged battery is merely consuming the battery so that it becomes ruined once it is consumed. That is that any gains are merely chemical reactions like using coils as battery cells until the chemical no longer gives power. This was a persuasive argument that would be very effective to dissuade people from even trying to experiment. Or the 4 million view video yesterday that pretends to build and demonstrate my fan kit and actually fake it and the results. The vast majority of viewers now conclude there is nothing at all to this even though my detailed short videos show otherwise and only get a few thousand views. As I said, this is all a psychological war against all that is good in our culture (so not just in this science but all sciences and all aspects of our culture). You don't have to disprove anything that is real. All you have to do is wedge the right doubt with lies and most people will believe. Aaron did this with his front page as I showed. It worked just as he calculated. It doesn't matter that a few people will realize it is a lie, because generally people do not care about the true in anything. They are just along for the feelings of the impression of the moment. They will fall for all the fallacies because they are not trained to spot them or be logical. They don't have time or the ability to think for themselves so they just follow the masses into error and trust their "professional" class. Surely everyone can't be wrong! Who do you think you are? You're not a (Rockefeller created/sponsored minion) professional!

What you say about speaking "normally without anger" is judgmental. When have I been angry here on this forum? It is merely you assuming I am angry. People assume others are just as they are when reading words. This is why such unmoderated forums are almost useless, or mostly worst than useless. Because it is just one big place to vent your assumptions. People assume claims are true and false. People assume other people's motives are good or bad. But there is no reason to rationally believe people are who or what they claim to be. Can you give me an example of where you think I was angry through my words here? You can't because I am actually demonstrating jesting to those I disagree with. Anyone who knows me in person knows how calm I am, as well as loving and understanding. I go into everything in life as a blessed gift moment of which I am a servant of God. My motive is glorify God at all times and seek everyone's well being because they all have intrinsic value. I learn from every experience and have no control agenda. All that prevents anger because there is nothing to lose.

So you assume that I am angry when I have demonstrated the opposite. If I was angry then would have responded to Nick the way I did? Or AG? Or G and other? And yet while you assume I am angry you assume that: "People who "attack" don't want to hurt you, it is just difference in view and opinion." How can you know that? How can you know either. As a matter of fact people love to hurt other people, so it is statistically improbable that you are right. But it doesn't matter to me if people are wanting to hurt or not. I don't react with anger, but have tried to help everyone nevertheless.

Again, no one should be expected to believe anything. You guys are still mystified in this assumption. Why do you still cling to the assumption lifestyle? I have said this repeatedly that you should never believe a claim over the internet. But most of you still do this and reason this way. That is believe a good or bad report that you have no justification believing. Don't you see how much this practice contributes to "fake news"? And as I wrote above, you show here the effects of unjustified belief of 1000s of lies. But you are only thinking that it was 1000 single lies and fail to understand that there were numerous lies to make each major claim be believed. It was because you wanted to believe something. So you gave it  force. There would be a lot less conmen if people were not so gullible. But did you consider that maybe many of these 1000 systems were actually true and that you guys placed your trust in some people to verify it but what they really did was like that fan video??? This happens all the time. This happens to me right here. And that is my one point I am stressing. You cannot believe my claim, and no one really wants to anyway (because I just showed up out of the blue and have done nothing and no one knows me at all  ;) ), and you cannot believe any counter claim (from people everyone knows personally and who they verify everything they claim in the real world  ;) ). That was meant to be funny if you didn't get that point. Still, even if someone is known in person and is generally reliable, they are still fallible and we can't just make them an authority. You see I don't teach with authoritarianism and dogma, I teach by showing you all how to do this yourselves. This is somewhat offensive as it gest real personal and exposes this false assumption practice that makes everyone fools. This is why I am effective because I speak to the individual at the deepest level. I have no pretension and just want to engage in the socratic dialectic and draw the truth out of people from their deepest reality.

So it depends on what you really mean by: "It saves me a lot of time of benching in vain." Because, as we saw yesterday with the fake fan disinfo video, millions of people thought the same thing: "It saves me a lot of time of benching in vain." Now they don't have to worry because someone figured it out for them that it was merely a hoax or mistake. Just like Mythbusters right? So what you have here is a Mythbusters light going on, which is the real hoax, just as that fan video was the actual hoax. And just to be clear, probably most people on this forum knows that the fan kit does not output what that video claims (so I am speaking along the lines that this is common knowledge now).

So just as you have caution in believing a positive claim, now yo have to be just as cautious in not believing the counter-claims. For who can condemn one and not the other? Who ought to believe one and not the other? They are both the same. But what you say shows a double standard for believe and doubt. You guys still don't get that whatever is shown or claimed over the internet does not amount to a justifiable reason for belief. So what has happened now, is that Overunity.com has become a den of hardened skeptics who disbelieve any claim (which is fine) but end up believing so-called authorities (just like in the establishment) and mythbusters who are not known in the real world, and who no one ought to believe their revelations through the internet, about disproving positive claims. So you rightfully disbelieve positive claims but have a double standard in not believing the negative claims of others. Both sets of claims are exactly the same. Both can be and are faked people. So I say don't believe the hype. And you cannot believe pictures, videos, and words from people you don't really know about things you have never actually seen in careful detail.

I guess I will just call out any such assumptions as "mythbuster prejudice assumptions" when ever people believe any positive or negative claim. People can make claims, and that is fine, but we can only rightfully believe truths of demonstration in science when the proper conditions has be realized (and that is in the real world, etc.). So any comment that makes a dogmatic conclusion about something needs to be corrected or you will all be swept away in error just as you have admitted to in this very statement. I am trying to help you guys because I have been helping people like you for 15 years now. But unless you get this right you will wonder around over and under believing things and will deceive yourselves and everyone you know. All these things I have proven to you by appealing to what you already know.

So don't assume you know anyone's specific motives or temper from mere words. You can't know really know what people are doing here. And as the subject matter is vastly important you have to expect that there is a high probability that cointelpro exists here.
Don't assume any OU claim is true.
Don't assume any replication or confirmation testimony is true. Like A.King for example. How can you know?
Don't assume any disproving replication testimony is true either. How can you know from either of these guys whether they are not mistaken or not showing some important details, etc.???

If you can't do this then let's just call the new Mythbuster's kids to determine the truth for us.

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 29, 2019, 03:04:32 PM
Rick,
As I said before, don't pay attention to attacking, which you did and I am glad, so now you speak normally without anger.
People who "attack" don't want to hurt you, it is just difference in view and opinion.
Lots of people here were mislead in the past, with 1000+ systems which did not work and they just wasted money and time chasing ghosts.
So, it is normal that lots of them have a hard time to believe again and ask for a prove, which is normal reaction.
You can not blame them for that.
That's why I need Hoopy and Itsu just as I need you.
I need someone to put me on the ground when I am lost and can not explain something.
It saves me a lot of time of benching in vain.
Hope you understand? No need to reply and make things worse! Just my opinion, which is right, no matter what you say or anybody else.
Good work!

rickfriedrich

No it is not worth studying. See my other comments. I was trying to be polite but the video actually reveals that he doesn't understand these things. It just confuses everything. He showed that he didn't understand what that circuit was doing at all. And other comments show that someone else gave the information to him and he is claiming the opposite there. You can even see him asking people questions on other videos. So this is an example of someone claiming to be an originator of an idea when he was not. Those of you who have been on these forums long enough know the discussions that we have had in those matters over the years. So two points:

1. He didn't even understand the point of Tesla's circuit.
2. He falsely claimed that he was the first one to show something that obviously he was not.

Quote from: a.king21 on June 29, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
It is worth studying:  Here is Rick's response to that video on the site.

a.king21

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 29, 2019, 06:55:26 PM
No it is not worth studying. See my other comments. I was trying to be polite but the video actually reveals that he doesn't understand these things. It just confuses everything. He showed that he didn't understand what that circuit was doing at all. And other comments show that someone else gave the information to him and he is claiming the opposite there. You can even see him asking people questions on other videos. So this is an example of someone claiming to be an originator of an idea when he was not. Those of you who have been on these forums long enough know the discussions that we have had in those matters over the years. So two points:

1. He didn't even understand the point of Tesla's circuit.
2. He falsely claimed that he was the first one to show something that obviously he was not.


Let me come in here with a comment.  When I watched the video some time back I did not understand it. Because Rick made a positive comment I assumed that there was something I missed, so I thought to myself "Well I'd better have another look at it".
I made the mistake of an assumption and I was wrong.  I am glad Rick verified my original impression as he has saved us a lot of confusion. So apologies to everyone.  I got it wrong.  (ouch)

rickfriedrich

Very good Mario, I appreciate you wanting to learn.
Now I have shared a few things on this thread already, and many more in video. If you go to my youtube channel and watch the first video that loads up you will get the original Loving Paths demonstrations and ideas. I will probably be doing a video tonight that will enlarge upon that post from 2 days ago as to where you are to start.
But notice
http://potentialtec.com/14311Original.jpg
I'm not sure how to upload pictures.
This is an example of doing something similar.

But as for the specific questions, there are several options. I have shown transformers or inductors in series with various outputs. See the following video and schematic for some examples of basic level options.

https://youtu.be/U3JyRMdJhzg
http://potentialtec.com/SeriesImpedances.jpg

I addressed your question the other day about Figure 5 in The True Wireless. On the contrary, in a) we have one wire off of the one wire buss. But yes, in b, we have a parallel arrangement as he says. It still is one wire however. Where would be two wires? It is across one wire. But this process is not merely about one wire, it can be two wires or wireless, etc. Try and get the idea and avoid overthinking it.

I show several different basic setups with the one wire, or two wires, or wireless. Once any of you get this then you will really appreciate Don Smith.

Remember it is all in the first stage process. Once you really understand the core thing I explained about the SSG type setup (without the trigger coil or even motor) then you will see that this is just doing it again and again. But you can't understand because you are thinking current flow. You have to first see that something different is happening on the output of the SSG or a reactive element. You have to come to grips with the fact that you have basically a duplication of the forward energy. If that is not your experience then you need to deal with that first and not get ahead. But once you can experience that then all the other stages follow. You are just created more reactive paths that do the same thing... End of story.

I didn't dangle a carrot over anyone's head. That is exactly what I exposed in Bedini the other day. Who do you think made all this open source and demonstrated all these things for years? lol You need to read through the last two weeks as I have shared all these things and answered your questions already. Also, see the videos over the last 3 years. If the old email lists were still up (which Bedini deleted) who would you find writing thousands of posts on these subjects? There are hundreds of pictures of my schematics, demonstrations and related matters all over Google images. So why are getting so uptight about this and talking about playing games? Also, it is not about wanting to share something, I did share it a long time ago and have continued to do that in better ways in recent years. I have shared online and in person many ways to get all your energy needs taken care of. I don't, and it would be impossible to try, share everything I know about all this, or any really high power systems. And I can see you are not asking. But what I don't understand is your last paragraph. Why are you so emotional? Have I failed to answer any question, good or crazy? There is really nothing more to go over. Just watch the Loving Paths videos and pick your flavor.

As for changing the world, we all do that positively or negatively. Will free energy change the world? No. Only a few people will be open to it. I have demonstrated these things for years but people don't really care. Even those striving for it are mostly not earnest about it. That is here in the US. In poor countries they embrace it. Some of you will be too zealous for your own good and will just get yourself in trouble if you expect to instantly change the world with free energy. The world already has a lot of free energy. The big governments already have that. There are many powerful free energy systems all around you. But you have all been under the psyops influence that promotes the idea that "nobody has it" yet. For if they did we would all hear about it. That has crippled this mass body of people into thinking it must be so hard to figure out or it is non-existent. Anyway, people like Stan M and Ed Gray, who tried to push this into the world as you may be implying, paid the ultimate price. If they had settled for quiet private sales they could have spread all their tech around he world (which has been done anyway) and accomplished much more than trying to overthrow the mafia systems. People think they know what is actually happening in the world and what they think would happen with this knowledge of free energy. But they are ignorant of human nature and the sophistication of the schemes to control the population.

Quote from: popolibero on June 29, 2019, 05:39:31 PM
Rick,
I don't want parts numbers, I want to understand the principle. I want to see a basic schematic, then I can understand how it's supposed to work. I find it confusing the way you present things. In b. Tesla has a series arrangement which is not in the one wire but parallel to it (longitudinal). Kron shows parallel arrangements, not in a one wire but between a potential source and each arrangement separated by a coil. What is your setup? I mean the one that is not perfect but works. Is it parallel or series? Series I have tried on the solid state SG output and can't see how it would work. Inserting a parallel arrangement instead is very easy to get tuned. Is this what you're doing? Although I can't see how you would get 0 voltage across a load. What do you see on the scope? Pulses? From the video I can't understand why it would show 0 volts. I know across a SERIES arrangement you read 0 volts, but a series arrangement doesn't seem to work on the SG output.
Please do not play the game of I know it all and you guys are never gonna find out. I've spent over 10 years of efforts, time, money and discipline in this quest and I'm sick and tired of people dangling the carrot in front of others. I was just about to quit it all and definitely, when I by accident stumbled upon this thread. I don't want to be spoon fed, I don't want a parts list. What do you want?? Do you REALLY want to share something or just amuse yourself watching us? Why not show a simple basic schematic with no values, just the principle, instead of dozens of long posts, do you want to teach us the method OR NOT? Do you want to change the world? I do, it's about time!


Mario

rickfriedrich

Haha, and now you don't need to watch the video right? Because I am an authority doing the mythbusting for you! No, but I did give you real evidence in the real world. This was about the wrongly called Tesla Hairpin Circuit, when it had nothing to do with a hairpin shape but rather a straight bar. The whole video was out of context from where we find Tesla giving it to us. So I just quoted from a real paper that you can all read and verify. And it just so happens to address the very things we are talking about here, and which this Master was no master of. Look at all the attention that video got, and it was a fundamental mistake because he never bothered to even read the context. And he never demonstrated anything significant either. It was all about being the first guy which wasn't even true.

Anyway, this is good A.king. This is a case in point just like yesterday's videos. AG is just doing a great job giving us illustrations here. And I am not saying that sarcastically. It is a great experience for all of us to carefully look at such examples that mislead so many people. Here we have several positive claims that were manifestly false and mistakes. And then we have examples of believing such mistakes because he was being followed by people who thought he was an authority. But then we have to counter claim that was not merely of the same nature (unverifiable) but the only disproof possible was an appeal to the real world (the actual context of Tesla himself in real publications) rather than another dogmatic counter-claim.

It is interesting that he never took the video down even though he liked my comments which show he is fundamentally mistaken. That says a lot. 

I think this is being discussed on this forum somewhere so it may be good for someone to draw attention to these facts. Or maybe it was the energenic forum.

Quote from: a.king21 on June 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Let me come in here with a comment.  When I watched the video some time back I did not understand it. Because Rick made a positive comment I assumed that there was something I missed, so I thought to myself "Well I'd better have another look at it".
I made the mistake of an assumption and I was wrong.  I am glad Rick verified my original impression as he has saved us a lot of confusion. So apologies to everyone.  I got it wrong.  (ouch)