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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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rickfriedrich

Mario, very good. It's not fully clear I can see. It takes time for these things to sink in because they are opposite to what you are used to. Even after years of engineering this it is still difficult because there are two different kinds of systems happening at the same time and people only admit one of them. I will be doing a video today that covers these things more or less.

There are various options, some of which I will not be talking about. But when the themes are understood then you can expand your options in many ways.
Remember what Dollard said, that even voltage is part of the measurement of wasted energy. We tend to think merely of amperage and wattage as such, but voltage is part of the same (and people really don't know what they mean by the term. That's why I struggle at times to decide upon the right words to use in this teaching. Voltage and amperage are showing the rate of destroying the source charge. These impedances or nodes are zero voltage negative resistors where energy converges into them from the Aether so there is no measurement of wasted energy going into them because it is a pure process. You can measure the resulting reaction, just like the results of an impulse, but you have to carefully consider the full time. I will point out the fallacies against free energy today where there is special pleading taking place in respect to selective time measurements as well as assumptions with meters.
As for the parts, they to can be negative resistors and show no voltage across them as was the case in the video. One secret hint we gave was that everything had to be in balance. Also something I mentioned with the publication of that black box video. I am only going so far with the advanced stuff as what I showed. I have more teachings at my personal meetings. But yes, you can have resistive loads that measure and incur losses if you want. And yes, if you have oscillating energy you can run loads for free without a net loss either. Options, options, options.
We have used all types of LEDs from the smallest to largest. All sizes of incandescents. All gas types, etc. Not sure which specific ones you refer to.
The different coils and transformers are just options and can be done at the same time. There are other options as well. This was just a sample. The third one is incomplete and would need to have a load to discharge the cap or else it would blow up and also blow out the motor circuit.
Remember that we are also talking about a negative impulse here so this has differences. That is something you can only learn by experience. So I leave everyone to just discover...
Haha, be careful not to fry components. Ask my students recently when they went down to the 4ns switching ranges with expensive mosfets and gate drivers. They had more energy then they could handle and blew out very high rated voltage/amperage parts. The other thing to mention here, and is one reason why I left even the basic level details in a black box for a few years, was that I realized that people would partially damage their semiconductors if they did not completely fry them and then get poor results after that and not even realize it. Some poor folks have had systems running for years with damaged transistors or mosfets and don't know it. So this will happen to you as well. And this becomes expensive. That is why this year I have focused on adding protections to the circuit in preparing to show all this to everyone.
You can do one wire, two wires, many wires, or no wires when you understand this.
Kron is showing the representation of the basic transmission line, and specifically that is another subject. But there are points that specifically relate to this here.
You are getting some of it somewhat. You just have to remember that there are different options once you understand all the themes. So it is not about one way here. There are some core ideas/themes that have to occur but there are a variety of options.

This is a very important point I say to the guys at my meetings: If I were to ask your wives if the time and money spent on this was justifiable over the years in saving/making money or whether it is more of a hobby for you because you like to tinker with interesting circuits? What would they say? Then I force them into realism and see that most people like to tinker around and some have done that for 30 years. That's fine, but I try and bring them to this realization. Some people will just not get it also. But you have to look at the fruit of the teaching of so many people and wonder why so many people are not succeeding. The old claim by Bearden and Bedini that they cared about the little old women at the end of the road who couldn't pay her electric bill just wasn't true. These guys were capable of helping such people but didn't. So there is a big problem if people find that they are getting nowhere in this. This is why I have always focused on simple ways to benefit from this technology as represented by: doing something rather than nothing approach. I always recommend for people to do something that works and keep it going rather than always race after the big output and never get it done. Remember I said this is 90-95% psychological. Having a little setup running for years means something. Even making a little magnet motor that does no real work, but perpetually spins will give you satisfaction as it did for those of us who played with such toys. In the same way you will see this point in the next video I'm working on. First settle the stage one process and come to grips with the fact that the law of conservation is not true and only a special case under a steady state existence, and is a time fallacy also. Come to grips with the same fact that Kirchhoff's loop rule is only a means of calculating a steady state point in time without considering all time in the real world process (and all total environmental reactions from start to finish). Once you see that the loop does not add up to zero, but has other positive or negative gains, then the game is over. That needs to be settled. You guys on this forum refuse to settle these points because you either do not want to admit to OU (and concede to these foundations) or you are just so desperate for free energy that you try and jump to the end results and hopefully find some magical circuit that gives the goods. But you cannot bypass the psychological facts of the matter. Unless you have a solid foundation you will just be confused with the end processes. You build upon truth not guessing. So once you see that reactive elements in a circuit give you a gain then that is the beginning and end of the matter. It is really that simple people. Even a resistor, as we will look at in the video, will give you some reaction when you turn it on and off. It is dishonest for teachers to misrepresent the entire picture here and then special plead and conclude with a dogma about conservation of energy. So once you see there is more than unity resulting from the loop, and not just consider what is in the loop, you have arrived at the true study of electricity in contrast to the study of mere power dissipation processes. It seems Mario, that you may still have some vague settling of this foundation point, so I encourage you to settle this point first. The fact that you do not have any solution and are bringing up the question of making a decision to continue in this research or get on with life shows this is not really settled with you. That may be partially settled, but I will do this video to help people settle this beginning point first. Then you will have a reason to do free energy engineering. Then you will all see that G's understanding of electricity is merely limited and why I wrote what I did, and why he did not respond, and can't respond. So we need to not only know what the truth is, but because we are used to being in a matrix like existence in regards to using underunity systems, we need to also understand and contrast why these are wrong (in the sense of the claim that they are the only possible way/limits). So I propose to do a video on the related fallacies.

Quote from: popolibero on June 30, 2019, 05:34:41 AM
Hi Rick,
thanks for posting your schematic, see for me now everything's clear. It's what I did as my first option, the parallel resonant option I mean. Now that's why there's hardly any voltage to see, the load is inserted in series inside the parallel tank, where there's only oscillating current, the only voltage is the one developed by the load itself, across it's own impedance. What are those led modules rated for anyway? Your drawing of the resonant setup (on the right) is a bit confusing, is it supposed to be two distinct coils? One with core? Or one coil with a secondary? I know different ways to extract the energy from a parallel tank, I'm just not sure which one you're referring to with that drawing.
When at resonance the tank just looks like an almost infinite impedance to the SG coil output, so since the SG coil discharge adapts to the load impedance we get very narrow HV spikes. We could actually remove the output battery and replace it by a wire if we wanted to, just have to be careful not to fry the components :) . It's actually a 2 wire system pulsing a resonant tank which we extract some power off of the resonant reactive oscillations. Yes, we could put more tanks in series, but wouldn't it be much better putting more (infinite) parallel tanks in parallel? I think this is what Kron is showing, right? I'm not sure yet about the added series coils he shows between each tank, but I suppose it's a way to separate them from each other while all of them still keep having the same effect on the generator as just one tank: depending on frequency we can get to a point where the generator current becomes (almost) zero, but all the tanks are at full oscillating power! Am I seeing this correctly? In the end it's all about hitting as many tuning forks as possible with one trigger.
As for me getting emotional, yes sometimes it can happen. Like I wrote earlier, I've been at this for quite awhile now. There comes a moment where you say ok, now I either get something working, or I get back to having a life... Oh, and I agree with what you said in your last paragraph, I'm well aware, when I meant change the world I meant from the bottom up...
@Whatisit:  I hope you can see what I was talking about earlier now that Rick has posted a schematic.
thanks,
Mario

rickfriedrich

Yes, that is what I am trying to do in various ways. Very good.

Quote from: benfr on June 30, 2019, 06:51:10 AM
Hi !
Can someone telle what is referred to as PLL ?
Rick, an Atelier is a workshop, and I mean a video workshop, on the  themes that I have enumerated. (One for each theme). I have not precised this but was thinking with off the shelf parts. It is not spoonfeeding...in certain categories of trainings, when the area covered is far somehow from the expected knowledge basis and experience of the trainees, a straightforward method  is provided, which may  include very  precise specifications on parts. In  such case, the example and practice come first, the understanding after. That is how I have been trained  by Zdenko Domancic on Bioenergy Domancic method, a first class method  of hands-on healing adressing very  popular  said  incurable affections. That is also exactly what you have created with the Rick kit , ie specific  parts coming with specific  instructions delivered  with the theory. So I see more of the same with sort of kit extensions, which I named Ateliers...

popolibero

Rick,


are you saying that it's not just about hitting tanks with the negative spike and take some power of the resulting resonant current? I get that depending on tuning we can either send back power to the input or send more to the charge battery, or neither and have the system in balance. Are you saying that when it is in balance something else happens which results in the possibility of the load not having voltage across it?
Maybe the best way to learn what you mean (or what you think I'm missing) is you giving a concrete example, I have solid state SG, I have a resonant tank (unloaded yet) between diode and charge battery. Show me what I should do with it to experience what you mean.
Btw, you said that in your schematic the third coil is not complete and that the cap would explode. I thought that cap was connected to the coil to make it resonant. It's actually not clear to me if the third and fourth coil are supposed to be one setup the way it is shown, or are they two separate setups? The cap you mention is connected to the coil on its left side, does the caps right leg touch the coil(s)?


I was referring to the diode lamps you show in the main video on your channel, at what voltage are they normally run at?


I'm looking forward to the new video:)


thanks


Mario

rickfriedrich

Mario,
I am doing a video right now and will go over things point by point. But I am not going to discuss other themes/possibilities because that is getting too involved for people. And so far I have no assurance that people are settled on the very first point. You need to fully settle on the first point before trying to figure out the advanced processes. I will enlarge upon the basics now and that will show you what to do after that. It will be self-evident after the aha! moment.
I said that the balance is something you have to always keep in mind and which is for you to figure out. And yes, in a manner of speaking.
No, I am not going to give my advanced process over to you or anyone no matter how much you ask. I have shown what is sufficient for everyone. You will figure out more after you settle on the basics, and then experiment. I will not dispense with the learning by experience process. If people don't do that they will just be dependent upon others.
I don't know if you have a proper solid state SSG. I cannot help anyone remotely or over the internet. And I cannot be assured that your semiconductors are not partly damaged. Which is most likely the case. EVERYONE will do that when they start to do this basic third stage process. So be prepared to have plenty of replacement parts for each controlled experiment. Very very few of you will ever do such controlled experiments because of the time and cost and mostly because you assume your parts are still fine because they still are switching. Some of you may have advanced semiconductor experience and know what I am talking about here. Again, this is why I didn't show even the basic level. Now I have opened the door and when people jump ahead and try this, even before they are settled in the basics (which I have no evidence that most people here have that settled) then they will go back to the basic level and get poor results. I have 15 years of full-time experience helping thousands of people all over the world with exactly this problem. Some people spend over a year with the same damaged parts and don't realize it. Then I visit them and pop in another transistor and presto, everything changes. Not the magic touch but Mr. Fixer  ;) with undamaged parts.
Again, this is why we cannot trust anyone's pictures, videos, or words about claims against FE systems. Because in many cases you have damaged parts.

So I would say that it is a bad idea to start with a solid state setup. Especially I believe you may have said you are powering it with a power supply. And you would want to start with fresh parts anyway.

The cap statement wasn't so specific. It was just said to tell you that no load was on it. It was an incomplete diagram, or just showing an example of a moment in time. And yes, in a tank circuit you can explode the caps.

I don't really get what your last sentences mean exactly.

Quote from: popolibero on June 30, 2019, 12:15:46 PM
Rick,
are you saying that it's not just about hitting tanks with the negative spike and take some power of the resulting resonant current? I get that depending on tuning we can either send back power to the input or send more to the charge battery, or neither and have the system in balance. Are you saying that when it is in balance something else happens which results in the possibility of the load not having voltage across it?
Maybe the best way to learn what you mean (or what you think I'm missing) is you giving a concrete example, I have solid state SG, I have a resonant tank (unloaded yet) between diode and charge battery. Show me what I should do with it to experience what you mean.
Btw, you said that in your schematic the third coil is not complete and that the cap would explode. I thought that cap was connected to the coil to make it resonant. It's actually not clear to me if the third and fourth coil are supposed to be one setup the way it is shown, or are they two separate setups? The cap you mention is connected to the coil on its left side, does the caps right leg touch the coil(s)?
I was referring to the diode lamps you show in the main video on your channel, at what voltage are they normally run at?
I'm looking forward to the new video:)
thanks
Mario

forest

Can you also explain in video why Q factor is free energy ? I have my own theory about it, waiting for comments on this topic also. If I could only confirm my theory....everything would be changed...