Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[a.king21]

Danger Danger Danger.
Yesterday I got my first mains power electric shock in five years from experimenting with the DSE. It was totally unexpected as I was looping the output to the input but accidently touched one of the capacitors. Luckily it was only a 450 volt 4.7uf motor run capacitor. I verified the output with a  220 volt  mains bulb and it lit for maybe half a second and then dimmed out.
The input was 4 x 1.2 volt nimhs in series, charged to about 5 volts. I am not posting the circuit or giving any more details out, nor am I claiming OU.
What I am claiming is that the DSE IS LETHAL.  Don't go anywhere near it unless you are a qualified person and wear protective clothing at all times.


I realise why Rick is ultra cautious now.  This stuff is no joke.  It will KILL YOU if you make a mistake.
  The resonance kit is safe  if you follow the book instructions.
Do not use an earth ground.

[itsu]

Hi Itsu,

Well, the split resonance point found due to the mutual coupling sounds an unwanted situation here because
it represents offtuned satellite LC circuits.  The goal is tuning all coupled LC circuits to the same resonant frequency.
I do not know whether 'avalanche effect' may come about under the split resonance case, have never heard about
such with mutually coupled LC circuits, not even with carefully adjusted ones which are tuned exactly to the same
resonant frequency. 
Claims like 'sympathetic resonance' or 'phase conjugate mirroring' ought to be proved to bring extra output energy
in this TX-RX resonant LC circuits discussed here.  Of course, nothing can be proved via the web or by videos... 
Gyula

Gyula,

yes, i would agree that the goal would be to tune all coupled LC circuits to the same resonant frequency,
but looking at the picture in Seaad his post #890, many of those coils are so close they are bound to influence
each other and thus detune each other.

Anyway, the term avalanche is not quite what i mean, so probably wrong here.


Itsu

[rickfriedrich]

Hoppy, were you on vacation or something??? I am not aware of anyone who has given more OU demonstrations publicly.
As for determining OU, you have to start by telling us what is OU? Anything over unity is OU. But what is unity? I'm not playing with words here, but people are vague on these words.
I do not rely on meters to evaluate my outputs over a few minutes like so many people do. But I can use meters, every type of meter that is used pretty much, to get a feel for where something is at. You can only really do this when you are experienced and run a system for weeks at a time. This is especially important when you are using batteries. And my tests have to last for years because the first premise of my company is "Battery longevity", so I refuse to promote Bedini's destructive (so-called) Tesla switch because even though you can get it to self-charge, you end up ruining your batteries. We even made one of my battery chargers do that.

So what I am looking for is not merely some 5 minute test like these Bedini people usually limited themselves to under my observation. Since I am looking at these things for production purposes and want to know the long-term affect and ensure stability (which are two of my requirements) I look at tests over the long-haul. So if it is battery system, I have to see it over more than days. It needs to be months or even years. I did that with the 26' boat and Porsche for example. The boat had and OU device while the Porsche had just a beefted up warp 9 forklift motor. The Porsche only had the OU system in it for a very short time because they all turned on me at the last big convention... So the one boat here (as there were three OU boat's I did--actually 4 if you include the watercraft) was OU in the sense that I continually rotated around the batteries for three years. That was not automatic. I had two big Anderson connectors I just swapped around whenever the primary went down. The purpose of that experiment was to show everyone that you could do this with the basic setup. Two of my customers actually did this before I did on very large sale boats and went around the world. So I had to at least do something like that for everyone to see. Now the watercraft I showed in a video running on the lake while powering a 100W LED very bright. That did not have the gate driver so it is much better now. But it had the option of either having the light or charging a second battery that could be rotated in the same way as the big boat. Same motor, and same circuit except with Mosfets instead of transistors.

Of course I had meters on the big boat so I could see when to rotate. Now we have the automatic rotation using a latching contactor that only draws power when you switch. Of course I looked at the spike and magnetic radiation and everything you would want to look at. But I am a real-world guy and I get use these in the real world once it is working. This is all very old news.

The motors are mentioned here as additional claims. I still don't expect people to believe any demonstration even in person. So I only expect people to prove things to themselves.

As for the Resonance kit, I do use all the meters people use. I could get into all those discussions but it is pointless at this point because people are ignoring the fundamentals that you need to start with. I am in the process of making a major presentation over the holidays so I will address these things in the proper order. The problem is that the meters are measuring the wasted energy and not the total energy. That is fundamental. So everything is looked at backwards. It's like looking at mosfet specs and seeing power dissipation ratings and thinking that is the limit through them. Again, the power measurements do not tell you if you are just using the inductor by itself for other purposes or if you use it to drive a motor and/or as a transmitter. So when no one cares about driving a motor with their amplifier boost system, I drive a motor also and get double the output than is admitted. When they only want to drive a motor I drive the motor and also get the electric output. The power meter is not showing you what you can do with the circuit or how much load you can drive. That is all the huge dirty little secret. I am showing here and with the motors that you can do many kinds of loads that add up WITH POWER METERS on the end loads, to be OU or more output than the fake laws are claimed to limit you. Who made such laws? Was it given by special revelation from God? No. By the slavemasters of our world.

Anyway, you can use meters if you know what they are and their limitations, as well as how they can sometimes change your results (as we saw with Itsu the other day). Inline ampere meters can really change the output in the motor systems, but they can also show that it is not amperage that is charging the battery. So the meters can also baffle the G's of this world, and they don't want to talk about such readings. Meters can show you an estimation of where you are at, like when we see zero voltage AC or DC on the regular LF meters, and that shows me when it is in tune. But I don't use such meters with HF and I use scopes all the time. I also measure various radiation with different meters. The meters show me that I can add more and more loads where no one else does. Here a transformer, there a capacitor, over there a coil. Here a bulb, there an electret. It's crazy how much energy is deliberately overlooked. And it is very laborious for me to go over these super basics here considering that fact. Once you understand the themes you will understand what that means. After several Aha! moments/experiences.

Rick,
I assume that you have built an OU device. How did you determine that it is OU?

[seaad]

To ==> itsu   Not ==> Rick
#900
Rick quote : ......... No, only the primary was tuned. They were not positioned carefully at all. There were no variable caps other than on the primary.
This is really for my customers who already have the kit and realize that this would be possible to do if they had that many coils. But I do not recommend going to such efforts to try and prove this to yourself. We can do much more with a few coils than even everything you see in that picture/video. ........

Regards Arne

[rickfriedrich]

Some people laugh at this stuff and think it all a joke. They slap together a bigger Don Smith setup and really hurt themselves it they actually approach doing it right. I get all the calls and stories. Many years back I had a best friend who was in charge of supervising power in Northern Canada. He shared stories with me about seeing men actually vaporize in front of him. Those kinds of stories always instilled in me that safety is the first rule of the shop. Safety of the batteries and biological safety as well. I have knowledge of what many Russians have done with massive Tesla coils and the radiation they have exposed themselves to. Many die from this after working with hundreds of thousands of watts. Crazy recklessness. I have shown the large coils at some of my meetings that can be used for grid size systems that would require massive transformers as big as a house. There is a lot of things you have to do to set up such systems for even the simplest testing. It is no joke to play around with even fairly small setups. A relatively small Tesla coil can result in powering 5 kw loads with the additional collection and wave shaping processes. So they can cause significant harm to you if you somehow become part of those processes and a conduit to ground. Most of you may not be aware of this, but I sometimes show the Tesla Cold Fire information at my meetings. Tesla said 100 years ago that we would all be using cell phones as we are and also said we would all have Tesla cold fire baths. No need for water when we can use a tesla coil at 500,000V to 1,000,000V. Shows a man and a bunny experiencing it. This is what Tesla did and what some do and didn't need to sleep more than 2 hours a night. Good luck in ever passing that through regulations. Can you imagine what would happen if parts broke down and you had some serious amperage? Interesting and dangerous stuff. At the last CDA Idaho Convention in 2011 I had a guy who made me a big Tesla coil and he tried to kill me with it... So I take these things seriously. I only knew a few guys to survive lightning strikes. Once you have close calls like this you just have to warn others.

Danger Danger Danger.
Yesterday I got my first mains power electric shock in five years from experimenting with the DSE. It was totally unexpected as I was looping the output to the input but accidently touched one of the capacitors. Luckily it was only a 450 volt 4.7uf motor run capacitor. I verified the output with a  220 volt  mains bulb and it lit for maybe half a second and then dimmed out.
The input was 4 x 1.2 volt nimhs in series, charged to about 5 volts. I am not posting the circuit or giving any more details out, nor am I claiming OU.
What I am claiming is that the DSE IS LETHAL.  Don't go anywhere near it unless you are a qualified person and wear protective clothing at all times.


I realise why Rick is ultra cautious now.  This stuff is no joke.  It will KILL YOU if you make a mistake.
  The resonance kit is safe  if you follow the book instructions.
Do not use an earth ground.