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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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a.king21

OOh the handbags are out ;D .  Anyhow Tinsel. Are you ready to discuss the circuit I have asked you about Sir? 8)

rickfriedrich

One form of energy. Can you tell me what you think voltage is? And pulling out a voltmeter and turning it on is not telling me what it is. I don't care about definitions myself as I try and understand people's meaning even when they differ with me in words.

Well I was just told by one of the moderators that you were banned from their forum. Obviously not Aaron's as that would possibly be good.

So you really think that if you just say the same thing over and over that people are going to take you seriously? No matter how many times you say you have something doesn't make it true bud. No matter how many times you say the earth is flat it won't change the reality. You can say I have never flown in an airplane because you don't believe in human flight, and you can claim to have gone to the moon but no one thinks you are capable. Repeating that over and over doesn't convince anyone of that. There may be something really wrong with you. Are you seeking recognition, to be acknowledged? Everyone, pay attention. This Tinsel has something important to say. Nothing to show, just something to say. He has something. It really is just a whole lot of hot air.  ::)  But he wants you to know that he has something important to say about himself. Yep that he is important. And you can't refute that. He knows it even if nobody else does ;) We love you T. I hope you get some help. So far you have shared not one important thing in these hours you jumped in here. Only repeating the same thing over and over. You have not revealed anything but naming a few units of energy that you would find in a high school primary book. Oh, yeah, you gave a nice little trick that I figured out. I guess your videos are just that a trick. Some parts thrown together with some scribbled numbers on them to give appearance that you are special. Why would I bother watching another video when the first one really had little benefit. Come on Rick, don't think it was proof of anything, but what do you think it proved? I guess nothing. How a foolish person keeps drawing attention to himself and says that you can't disprove him doing that. That's how you come across man! That's what stands out. Behold the man! Look no further! That is worse than Bedini.

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 14, 2019, 12:28:33 AM
Voltage = energy, does it?
So I have here a bunch of different capacitors, all charged to the same voltage. Therefore they all contain the same energy.

Right?

And the way you talk about "J"s measured here and there indicate once again that you either don't know what you are talking about or you seek deliberately to mislead your audience. Or maybe both.
Let's review. Everything I say and demonstrate here can be easily replicated by anyone with the skill to assemble some parts and the test equipment to measure it. This is not the case for what you are presenting. You are advertising OU, but you cannot demonstrate the kind of OU that means anything real, that is, Joules out > Joules in. In fact from your last post it seems that you don't even know what that actually means.
You are so tangled up that you won't even try to refute me, because you know you cannot. So you resort to your childish insults and deflections, and even outright lies that are easily disproved, like you were mocking Mylow, or that I was banned from forums.

The real electronics builders here and at OUR all seem to share the same opinion. It's not just me, it is nearly everyone who has actually shown working systems and analyzed various projects and demonstrated their competence with measurement and construction. We all know that you've got nothing but hot air, and you have no trouble proving that with your walls of text!

TinselKoala

Quote from: a.king21 on July 14, 2019, 01:11:39 AM
OOh the handbags are out ;D .  Anyhow Tinsel. Are you ready to discuss the circuit I have asked you about Sir? 8)
Here's what I said when you first brought it up:
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No, actually I have no idea what circuit you are talking about. Messed up my cctv? Sorry, I can't recall. Can you give me more details?Just about any High Voltage E-field emitter will do that though, with these crappy unshielded USB extension cables. I can whip up something for you in a few minutes if you really need a CCTV/WIFI disruptor.  I have lots of devices I don't dare operate inside the house, the EEEE being one of them. Yes, it is still in the wings waiting for the right time to debut.
Quote from: a.king21 on July 12, 2019, 10:43:18 PM
It was the circuit from the Ukrainian Government's Agricultural institute based in Kiev. It was a replication of only a part of a Don Smith circuit.  It kept blowing bulbs and they concluded that this required further study.  It was performed by a PHD student for his exams and supervised by the appropriate professor.
Sorry, I still don't recall. Are you sure you shared the circuit with me, and not some other crazed koala? Why don't you just open another thread and post the circuit there and if I have it among all this other junk... sorry, junque... we can discuss it if you think it is really important.

TinselKoala

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 14, 2019, 01:20:31 AM
One form of energy. Can you tell me what you think voltage is? And pulling out a voltmeter and turning it on is not telling me what it is. I don't care about definitions myself as I try and understand people's meaning even when they differ with me in words.
Yes, I can tell you what voltage is. But since you don't care about definitions, why should I? Can you answer my question? A bunch of caps charged to the same voltage. All therefore have the same energy. Right, if voltage is "one form of energy". Wrong, if they have different energies. Yes or no? I am not asking you to define anything, I am asking you if the capacitors have the same energy or not.
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Well I was just told by one of the moderators that you were banned from their forum. Obviously not Aaron's as that would possibly be good.
I am not F6. He's French and knows what he is talking about in the field of radio electronics and isn't afraid to say it. I'm Texan, and also not afraid.
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So you really think that if you just say the same thing over and over that people are going to take you seriously? No matter how many times you say you have something doesn't make it true bud. No matter how many times you say the earth is flat it won't change the reality. You can say I have never flown in an airplane because you don't believe in human flight, and you can claim to have gone to the moon but no one thinks you are capable. Repeating that over and over doesn't convince anyone of that. There may be something really wrong with you. Are you seeking recognition, to be acknowledged? Everyone, pay attention. This Tinsel has something important to say. Nothing to show, just something to say. He has something. It really is just a whole lot of hot air.  ::)  But he wants you to know that he has something important to say about himself. Yep that he is important. And you can't refute that. He knows it even if nobody else does ;)
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is? How about "Argumentum ad hominem, abusive" ? Do you know what those are? They are _logical fallacies_. You cannot refute me, so you make up things like airplanes and flat earths that have nothing to do with the fact that you can't define your OverUnity in common physics terms or demonstrate its reality. So you resort to insulting me personally, when I am simply criticizing your unsupported claims and your lack of cooperation in providing evidence for them.As far as saying things over and over.... pot kettle black.

QuoteWe love you T. I hope you get some help.
LOL! You don't know what love is! But whatever it is, you certainly don't feel it for me, and I'm glad of that! I do need some help though. Want to come over and help me change the rack and pinion unit on my car?
QuoteSo far you have shared not one important thing in these hours you jumped in here. Only repeating the same thing over and over.
Somebody has to take up the baton, since the other people who are telling you the same things must be getting tired of it. But it doesn't seem to sink in! Claims of OverUnity should be supported with evidence! Joules out > Joules in !
QuoteYou have not revealed anything but naming a few units of energy that you would find in a high school primary book. Oh, yeah, you gave a nice little trick that I figured out. I guess your videos are just that a trick. Some parts thrown together with some scribbled numbers on them to give appearance that you are special. Why would I bother watching another video when the first one really had little benefit. Come on Rick, don't think it was proof of anything, but what do you think it proved? I guess nothing. How a foolish person keeps drawing attention to himself and says that you can't disprove him doing that. That's how you come across man! That's what stands out. Behold the man! Look no further! That is worse than Bedini.
Silly you! You don't seem familiar yourself with those high school physics units since you avoid them like the plague and scramble them like eggs. Otherwise we (not just I) wouldn't have to bring them up so often. And you criticize something you admit you haven't even watched!
Worse than Bedini! No... Better than Bedini is the MHOP.

I argue against your claims. You insult me personally because can't refute my arguments. That is pretty much the bottom line, and it happens over and over again... but nobody manages to demonstrate actual OU.

You do know that there are many thousands of dollars available in various OverUnity Prizes, don't you? How many of them have you won, or even applied for?

Void

Quote from: NickZ on July 13, 2019, 05:21:32 PM
   Itsu:   Thanks for all that information, and the schematic. That helps me at least, to understand what is being done here.
   I don't know if Rick would agree on your build, or not, but it would help if he would let us know just what is not being done right, in order to see what he says is possible, such as more out than in.
   Thanks again,                         NickZ

Hi Nick. Have you ever seen any reasonably done self-looped demonstration from Rick?
I suspect the answer is no. If you have not, then why waste your time with his... err... unfounded claims? 
I suspect you'll be waiting a very long time if you are expecting any straight forward and reasonable answers
from Rick. To be frank, everything he does and says screams pure nonsense. I get that some people
just like playing around with circuits whether it is COP > 1 or not, but the truth is if someone really has
something unusual they should be able to self-loop it and demonstrate it relatively easily, in most cases.
In some cases, some special effort may be required to provide better impedance matching when trying to self loop,
or if the COP is not much > 1, then some form of daisy chaining may be required as TK has mentioned.
Really though self-looping shouldn't be too difficult to do in most cases.

When a person immediately goes into silly rationalizations and bafflegab and deflections when someone
mentions about self-looping, then you can be 99.9999% sure they are just blowing smoke. Rick does this for a business,
so that is probably a good part of the reason why he blows so much smoke. He probably assumes he can continue to fool his
naive customers and keep the money rolling in just as long as he continues to pile on the bafflegab nonsense. Anyone with
even a basic understanding of electronics should see pretty quick that he is talking a lot of nonsense.

Self-looping separates the wheat from the chaff, and there sure is mountains of chaff and lots of lame excuses out there. ;)

I have been really busy for the last while, but I thought I would stop by and see what's happening here lately.
As I mentioned in the past I saw a few potentially interesting things in my testing when testing with the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan
types of arrangements. If I get some time, maybe in the winter, I will try to dig a little deeper into it.
From what I have seen, that approach seems to possibly be a little more potentially promising avenue of experimentation, where
most other approaches don't seem to hold water. :D

All the best guys....
Don't be fooled by bafflegab. Self-looping talks, bafflegab walks... All else is folly. ;)