Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[gyulasun]

Hi Stefan,
And which are the "bad videos" your friend referred to?

Gyula

[hartiberlin]

Yes, this thread is the most popular right now. As we are all trying to get to the heart of the matter. But, so far, it's going no where, while at the same time, some of it's best people are bailing out. I hope that that does not happen, over a misunderstanding. So, let try to follow up on this and other claims. The truth needs to he known.

Well, if some people want to leave now the forum and requested to delete all their postings, it is too bad, as this would rip this interesting topic totally apart and important things would be missing , as seen from a history standpoint later seeing, who did what and who did achive what, etc.....

So I would rather want, these people to stay here and discuss out the controversy in a good manner...
I don´t acuse any members to do this on purpose, maybe they just did not get the right effects, hard to say , if I have not measured their circuits myself...or they sometimes don´t draw the right conclusion and thus not doing the right experiments and missing the important points...
Everybody is different in his perception...

So I am sorry, if my former comments pissed some members off...I apologize...!!

Also if you really want to leave, please be sure to get fully KYC (Know Your Customer), so I need a picture scan of your passport, your living address and a picture from you also showing your email adress, so I can see, that it is really you, who want to have all your posts removed, so that no hacker, who might have compromised your email account, can claim, they want to take down all of your postings...
Many thanks for your understanding.
Regards, Stefan. ( Admin)

[NickZ]

   Stefan:   How about just a picture, of the 3 watt led aimed right at the camera, with another led connected to the grid source, next to it.   That way we can at least get an idea, of just how bright the first led actually is. As leds will light on peanuts.    Funny that when it comes to showing the results, everyone, well, gets cold feet, if you know what I mean.
   

[rickfriedrich]

Wow Nick, he barely mentioned this and you are already judging him. Like I said, it really doesn't matter if 100 people said the same thing or showed you anything, you will just say such things.
I told you guys that my customers don't care for the groups. Why would they want to be just attacked by you? What do they owe you that you make so many demands and then just insult people when you don't get what you want? Let people show what they want and leave them be.
You guys really ruined things for yourselves, because rudeness and attacks only drives people away. But patience, politeness and demonstrating a constructive spirit only invites people to share more. Notice whenever you were polite I shared more with you. But then you just come back with deceitful statements and games. What do you really expect, people to cast their pearls before the swine when they will only trample on them. You are already judging this guy the first chance you get.

So if this discussion is going to work, you have to stop all this being a control freak. There are no rules here as you keep implying. If you want the claim rule just go to OUR and wait for years before any claim is allowed. But here just because someone say I have OU does not mean they have to become some slave of someone else. You guys have effectively driving any good people away from this forum with these attitudes and demands. So maybe that is on purpose so that no one shares anything good. Not so on the private groups where people are supportive and for each other's good and patient. Here it is attack, assume, demand. Remember, anything shared is a gift. And if it is OU then it is very special and worth millions. It is true that people are often mistaken, but that should not be assumed. I know that you guys know I am not mistaken and you know I have demonstrated these things to many people. So obviously something else is going on. But all I'm saying is if you really want people to share anything with you then leave them alone and let them share what they want to share in their own time and way. If I prefer to show the output in a different form of energy, then that is fine. Everything doesn't always have to be about looping. As I showed the second last video, there was no loop needed. The battery just stayed the same. But no no, freak out time. Not acceptable...

The first rule of forums is to be polite.
The second rule is to not demand gifts from people or insult them if they don't give you gifts.
The third rule is to never assume demonstration claim can be proven over the internet.
The four rule is to understand that forums are just places to share ideas and clarify things.

If yo guys could just do that then there would be very little problems.

   Stefan:   How about just a picture, of the 3 watt led aimed right at the camera, with another led connected to the grid source, next to it.   That way we can at least get an idea, of just how bright the first led actually is. As leds will light on peanuts.    Funny that when it comes to showing the results, everyone, well, gets cold feet, if you know what I mean.

[rickfriedrich]

Stefan,
Do not worry about that. My posts have very thorough replies with quotes within them.

I have suggested some basic rules or guidelines in the last post. Starting with being polite and not making demands and insulting people if they don't give you what you ask for.

Rick

Well, if some people want to leave now the forum and requested to delete all their postings, it is too bad, as this would rip this interesting topic totally apart and important things would be missing , as seen from a history standpoint later seeing, who did what and who did achive what, etc.....

So I would rather want, these people to stay here and discuss out the controversy in a good manner...
I don´t acuse any members to do this on purpose, maybe they just did not get the right effects, hard to say , if I have not measured their circuits myself...or they sometimes don´t draw the right conclusion and thus not doing the right experiments and missing the important points...
Everybody is different in his perception...

So I am sorry, if my former comments pissed some members off...I apologize...!!

Also if you really want to leave, please be sure to get fully KYC (Know Your Customer), so I need a picture scan of your passport, your living address and a picture from you also showing your email adress, so I can see, that it is really you, who want to have all your posts removed, so that no hacker, who might have compromised your email account, can claim, they want to take down all of your postings...
Many thanks for your understanding.
Regards, Stefan. ( Admin)