Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

There were two different demonstrations. The meeting had 15 3W bulbs with over 70 small coils. There were 10 big coils with bulbs, one ferrite coil with bulb, and 4 smaller coils with big bulbs (one under the table). I showed all of these at 0.75W input. In the video one of them had the wires touching but then I fixed that so it came back on.
The point is about the actual light produced with a light meter and/or what the power measurement on the bulb is. These are things to be done in the real world.
And yet you think you have somehow, from a picture and video, "reliably estimate output power on bulbs".

You deflect more importantly from the fact that it is a war. You guys are at war, and have been from the first. It is a constant psychological war where you continually twist the facts and pretend to be interested in OU. You deflect with mockery. You just repeat senseless things over and over while you accuse me of doing the very things you are doing. You hope that people will just read your words and pass over what I have actually said. But now you have been shown who you are.

Remember, everything you say is in your context of supposing that you can prove something over this forum. So it is Void of truth. Your point would mean something real if it referred to something done in real life. Not one of us is in each other's shops to see what the others are doing. So all these words are only saying what I have been the only person to insist upon. There is no "proper testing methods" over the internet. You don't even really give lip service to that fact. You just keep assuming this in whatever you say. Then you mock me for driving this truth home. Now I have shown various meter readings and self-runners, in videos. But when it comes down to it, you know that can never be enough. The best it could do is encourage you to want to try and do the same. You would never bank on someone else's work, especially someone you don't know at all (even those you talk to over the internet for years).

You guys lift yourself up as some superior people who are capable of doing measurements and being able to evaluate OU. You mock me as being the lowest in everything. Yet that is the most hypocritical of all when you reason in the context of the assumption that you can prove anything with video or pictures. It is the biggest delusion of all. No one has the burden of proving anything over the internet. That is impossible. Yet somehow you and some few remaining guys keep assuming that. You keep thinking that you can disprove or prove something like this here. As I said, this is only an information sharing place. I don't see Mario attacking me with his questions. He asked, I answered. I may be right I may be wrong. That is the extent of what this is about. You internet-proof-burden-guys are highly dramatic and hypochondriacs. Your anger and vicious attacks are based upon being upset that I have destroyed your hobby of just picking at people while not doing anything real. The onus is not on me to prove anything. I can only prove in the real world. My word is no different than a picture or video I show. They are but the same thing. You can think it is relevant enough to consider or just move along to something else. But your fixation upon it is revealing. It is because you actually believe it is real, and/or you are set on doing whatever it takes to suppress these ideas. You are desperate. You engage in lies and diversions and every fallacy. The personal attacks reveal that you are convinced this is important. You wouldn't reason with me at all if you really thought what you do about me. You may engage a few times and then just ignore. But no, there is a lot more going on here. Obviously, as we have I think 115000 views on this thread and that has largely been over the last month. Why is this so important to all of you? Why all the fuss? Is this not just an information exchange? No, you are worried someone may believe this. Why is that? What is so important about someone sharing the principles of OU? What is so bad about me sharing information and answering questions people are asking? Why is so wrong about me pointing out that you can't prove or disprove OU over the internet? Well you all know the answers. And that is why there is so much rage an insult. I've exposed the games an folly. I have shared rather important truths. This is frustrating for you because you have failed in your mission here. Does that mean you won't get paid? I don't know. Anyway, if anyone takes a step back, maybe stand behind your computer screen for once and consider what you have been doing here. Look at the back of your monitor and ask yourselves these questions. What am I really expecting from the other side of that screen? Is that the real world, or is this the real world? Maybe you think you are in a matrix or something. That is how some of you are acting. As if this is the real world and out there is too uneventful to be real or important enough to find verification. It's a serious condition that you need help with. You just can't get yourself so worked up about something that is only information sharing. There is no expectations here. Well there shouldn't be. But yet you guys are expecting so much more than that. For those of you doing that who are not trolls sent here, I understand that you are frustrated with others for what you believe has been wasting your time. But you are really frustrated with yourselves for being foolish enough to believe something is proven over the internet. Thus you take it out on anyone else. You then demand that someone prove something to you for merely sharing information. But those are two different things. So your fictional body language here is telling. You are very concerned with this. Even someone I'll not name, who says they were leaving came back because he knows it's real. Why else would you get yourself so upset about it?


Anyway, put that screen down and start living in the real world. Prove things out in the real world. Meet up with others in the real world. Buy a few meters that are real and actually working Void. 

Hi TK. Well, I only counted 11 LED bulbs glowing and one LED bulb that seemed to be connected
but didn't appear to be glowing, in the screen shot of Rick. There might have been one or two more I couldn't see.

The bottom line of course is anyone with any understanding of electronics at all will know that you
can't reliably estimate output power on bulbs (of any type) by just looking at their brightness and
taking a guess at their power consumption. That at least should be a given in this forum at this point.

Also, some cheap LED bulbs can have some inefficient circuitry/components in them for matching
their nominal operating voltage to the voltage of the LED or LEDs inside the bulb, but when you connect such
bulbs up to a high frequency driver circuit, it can bypass any voltage regulating/current limiting circuitry
and cause the LEDs to light up even more efficiently than if you power them with their nominal voltage normally.
The LEDs them self will of course be operating at their typical high efficiency regardless however. Unfortunately, I suspect
that such things will be lost on Rick however, given his various comments here already.


Rick, this is not some 'war' that a person must try to 'win' at all costs using all manner of deflection and excuses,
etc. For at last some people here it is about facts and reality. What is really true, and what is not?
Not about 'winning' or 'losing'. If something is really true, it will be able to stand up to close scrutiny and proper testing
methodology. If you or someone else can demonstrate over unity in a reasonable way showing proper testing methods,
then great, you are in the right place. There are usually people here (or there were) who will be willing to put in the effort to
try to confirm or negate by replicating the circuitry or approach and put it through proper tests. The goal being to determine, 
'how is the setup really performing'?

Reality, what a concept!

All the best...

[a.king21]

I think you should focus on Rick's tracing of the history of OU patents and how they can be modernized. This info is independent of whether you agree with Rick or not.  In any case those of you in the USA are free to go to one of Rick's meetings, bring your own scopes and meters and do your own tests.  Then there is no need for all these outbursts.  Just go and see him in the real world.  Nothing I have read here from the anti-Rick brigade has swayed me one bit. .  I have learnt a lot from you guys. And I have learned a lot more from Rick. I can only say thank you Rick.  You have explained a lot of mysteries. There is only one to go for me and you know what that is.  Thanks again Rick.

[a.king21]

One of the first claims that I tested was that the introduction of more coils increased the total magnetic field in the Resonance induction coupler kit. I used a gause meter and it proved positive.
The next thing I tested was the magnetic field on the big coil just out of resonance and in resonance.  The result was a MASSIVE difference. A HUGE increase in the magnetic field at resonance.
If you have a plasma ball or plasma tube and use the gaussmeter you will see an even greater magnetic field which is exactly why Don Smith showed a plasma ball ou device.

You need a gauss meter to understand what Rick is talking about.

[Void]

One of the first claims that I tested was that the introduction of more coils increased the total magnetic field in the Resonance induction coupler kit. I used a gause meter and it proved positive.
The next thing I tested was the magnetic field on the big coil just out of resonance and in resonance.  The result was a MASSIVE difference. A HUGE increase in the magnetic field at resonance.
If you have a plasma ball or plasma tube and use the gaussmeter you will see an even greater magnetic field which is exactly why Don Smith showed a plasma ball ou device.

You need a gauss meter to understand what Rick is talking about.

No, a.king. Perhaps a person 'needs' a gauss meter if they prefer to be lead down the garden path. :-)
There are lots of people like that in this world who really prefer to blindly believe instead of making an effort to move
forward with actual understanding.

It is a given that a coil operating at resonance will have a stronger magnetic field. That is electronics 101.
That tells you nothing about overall circuit efficiency. Nothing whatsoever...

If someone truly wants to understand how a circuit is performing they must compare average output power to average
input power. All else is empty hand waving and folly. I understand fully that such distinctions will often be completely
lost on people who do not have a half decent grasp of electronics and physics, and that is why the cycle of wild unsubstantiated
claims never ends here and elsewhere. This will not likely ever change any time soon. Many people in this world operate primarily at
the level of belief and ignore and block that which is not compatible with what they prefer to believe. That is probably a good part why
the human race is heading towards destruction with the pedal to the metal. Most in this world are oblivious to what we are
really doing. The bottom line is, like Bedini, Rick has not demonstrated anything in any sort of reasonable way, that
I have seen anyway, that even suggests over unity. People can choose to ignore this if they like and believe whatever they like,
and ignore basic measurement and testing principles, etc., but they are only fooling them self in the long run.
I know these are all probably wasted words here for the most part, but I chose to type them anyway. 

All the best...

[rickfriedrich]

Glad to see you moving forward with your expert example. Not sure I can afford your equipment    Maybe A.king can show you how to celebrate it with a screw driver.  oops that would go against your "actual understanding" of how to do "basic measurement and testing principles" over the internet. Can't have any work done in the real world because here we are only "fooling" ourselves and "believe whatever."
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really prefer to blindly believe instead of making an effort to move forward with actual understanding.

I understand fully ... and believe whatever ... and ignore basic measurement and testing principles, etc., but they are only fooling them self in the long run.