Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[ramset]

Rick  Here I will show my problem posting at this site [your reference post# 1878 and my response was in post 1881 ].You will see what I write here in the screen shot below ,prior to clicking send. [edit read that if you  can't read this]
  As mentioned, we have access to a Lab in Orlando which for many years has tried to get FE techs out
to the world.There is a man who volunteers there and has helped there and elsewhere for quite some time.actually several  volunteers  there.  If you will make a brief PDF ,members here will do the rest [get whatever is needed there]and all will be shared here and elsewhere. Or we can hire an independent test lab which will use Certified and calibrated equipment all documentedand a certified test report ,which is standard operating procedure for them every day ,there reputations
and integrity is on the line. I agree with Ray you could work here as Wesley and Bruce TPU and a few others Do.
EDIT to add/I have worked all my  life with test labs ,in extremely sensitive and high liability areas /where many many persons lives depend on the results being accurate  /.NYC,Boston and all along the Northeast corridor of the USA/Both as a field rep and freelance ...always using certified equipment with upto the minute calibrations/These reports are not allowed to be inaccurate ,lives and reputations rely on that /respectfully/Chet K/Ps/I put a slash everywhere I dropped to the line below in this Edit /And here you read how the forum wrote this post,The problem varies every time ./IMO not everyone wants open source out there.

[rickfriedrich]

Raymondo,
That reply was not to you but Chet. I was merely pointing out that there were very large spaces between sentences and at the end of the posts from Chet. I only included a few words to show which post I was replying to. Such spaces just make for lengthy posts for no reason. Obviously I am always criticized for long posts, but adding many spaces is no content and makes for many more pages. I always try to remove the spaces in the replies so as to keep the format as short as possible. Not a big deal. I was just noticing the excessive spacing. Others have complained along similar lines when people make pictures too wide.

'rickfriedrich' Please stay cool and explain, i'm not your enemy ??
of course if you so wished as you appear to moderate the moderator you could just
ask  Stefan for moderator control of your very own thread and halt all input accordingly.
I Just thought i would leave you with that thought.

Raymondo

[rickfriedrich]

I think that may be the same Lab I have dealt with some years ago. I was invited down to Orlando for two days to do consulting. One of my customers there had hired an engineer to put together my large 10 coiler and another 20 coiler monopole. They had a problem with the 20 coiler. After about 10 minutes I realized that the negative buss connection had a massive cold solder joint so that it was intermittently turning on and off. So I fixed it and then it worked properly. Later they changed it around with big circular busses. I mentioned that setup recently in a video, and in a more recent video showed the 10 coiler from Orlando. These guys were doing various things over the years and mentioned from time to time some details. Apparently one of the guys is on OUR so it may be the same Lab. Another one of these guys who was associated lives up this way and works with a local college doing similar research. These guys are not closed to OU research (obviously) and have shared that they have had some success over the years. I don't have any close relations with them so I can't confirm their work. While I know many scientists and engineers in the government and military and related work, I decided long ago not to get involved with anything that directly or indirectly deals with weapons or warfare because I am of the non-aggression anti-violence persuasion. And that includes people in (or formerly in) Lockheed and darpa, etc. These guys already have all this anyway. Many OU technologies compete with such entities and their agendas and that is why they are not allowed for the public and limit what people can show. I'm not bringing this up as a point, but only to say why I have refused to work with various Labs and people (even though I have demonstrated to such)...

Labs are made up of people with motives. If you want to consider the work of Labs that have published already on these subjects, then consider the work that T. W. Barrett has published as I have mentioned. No need for new testing when there are plenty of examples over the last 70 years. Barrett himself, as a leading authority in this work, has published many very import works. He is a top level scientist and his latest book was sponsored by Ratheon, DoD, etc., and relates to this research (and what I have done with the Resonance coils): Resonance And Aspect Matched Adaptive Radar (Ramar). Such works are above what people are able to understand here but I have tried to bring about some of his earlier work that directly deals with the various systems I have demonstrated on a basic level and with Tesla's systems. You guys should not be ignoring this but be all over it. Barrett and associates have provided hundreds of citations for you to examine. No one wants to consider that, perhaps because it above their ability to understand or else they don't want to admit it. That's why I said this is old news. OU and Free Energy are long proven out in all the ways necessary. It has also been used in many ways as well in existing technology. Barrett did this with optics. What I have been doing is making it as simple as possible for the average person. I'm trying to avoid all the advanced language, convoluted processes, and expensive parts and procedures so that the poor can take parts around them and make them work. And this is what has happened all around the world. You mock me for not doing what I have actually been doing for 15 years now. I'm trying to teach people in an effective way and remove the psychological obstacles (like prejudice). You guys demand this and that, while regular people just get right to work and use the technology. I'm not here to try and prove something or get recognition. I have just passed on information. If you want the kind of proof you are asking for then read Barrett. You can do all the experiments and see for yourself if the various Labs and scientists were wrongfully awarded Nobel prices or were mistaken. What you guys have done here is tried to convince readers of these forums that no one has ever proven anything like this in a Lab, and you have taunted people making OU claims with your demands to prove something through you as you outlined below (as if you are some judge). You bank on the fact that common readers are not familiar with advanced physics history over the last 120 years, and press the truncated Maxwell under unity college level electrodynamics as if it is some absolute or universal (because that is all you know). If you have a problem with that statement then show us why Barrett was wrong in his historical analysis of what happen with Maxwell's equations and the resulting removal of the A potential, etc.

You can hire people to produce the exact outcomes you want. Darren will be sure to make zero gains even as he assumed I was off by 150 to 250 times with LEDs. There is your expert with his conclusion before he has even begun testing. It's like General Mills paying millions of dollars for 10 year testing trying to get support for the nutritional benefits of processed sugar, or the tobacco industry doing the same sort of thing. How many professors will personally, and quietly, admit many things that they have actually done in their Labs, but will not risk their reputations or be allowed to publish the truth. Labs lie all the time because motives are real. But we already have the findings published at the highest levels if you do your homework. The big corporations are profit based and not humanitarian. They control the schools and public sentiment. If knowledge equaled action then so many things would be different in this world. But people ignore and suppress what they know to be true and selling of energy is one of the most profitable trades.

You have to come to grips with this Chet. Your reasonings are rather naïve. You don't know what has already been published. You don't know the history of electrodynamics. But you want to give the impression that people are only entitled to believe in OU claims if someone other than themselves certifies it for them. That's not the intention of this forum, and there is no grounds for anyone to come under that pressure. That reasoning makes Mythbusters legitimate. These appeals are identical entertainment and distractions when you have abundant testing confirmed over all these years. No, it is not my specific setups but all the parts of the whole are confirmed already. And if you are really serious then do your homework first and then you will have no problem seeing the consistency of what I have been showing. I presented here with the expectation that you guys would continue to do all this with all the arrogance. But in the end everyone can see that you are all only at the basic levels of this science. The first absurdity was thinking that you can prove something like this over the internet with videos and pictures. That was a really immature assumption that is still hotly resisted. You guys repeatedly claim that you are experts and work with Labs, etc. But is that so? Do you really know the advanced technology and science? No, obviously. So now you look silly waving all the prestige jargon appeal as if trying to sound like an authority (not speaking so much of you directly Chet) while you ignore those at the highest levels.

Again, start at the beginning and when you figure it out, then tell us why you have any rational reason to expect to believe in OU. G finally admitted that there was not reason. Nobody wants to address that fundamental starting point. Tell me, did not Faraday and Maxwell give such grounds? Why was that eliminated? Once you open up that door you will find everything you are looking for. You have to realize that everything is in a context. You will look at things from the context you are in.

  As mentioned, we have access to a Lab in Orlando which for many years has tried to get FE techs out
to the world.There is a man who volunteers there and has helped there and elsewhere for quite some time.actually several  volunteers  there.  If you will make a brief PDF ,members here will do the rest [get whatever is needed there]and all will be shared here and elsewhere. Or we can hire an independent test lab which will use Certified and calibrated equipment all documentedand a certified test report ,which is standard operating procedure for them every day ,there reputations
and integrity is on the line. I agree with Ray you could work here as Wesley and Bruce TPU and a few others Do.
EDIT to add/I have worked all my  life with test labs ,in extremely sensitive and high liability areas /where many many persons lives depend on the results being accurate  /.NYC,Boston and all along the Northeast corridor of the USA/Both as a field rep and freelance ...always using certified equipment with upto the minute calibrations/These reports are not allowed to be inaccurate ,lives and reputations rely on that /respectfully/Chet K/Ps/I put a slash everywhere I dropped to the line below in this Edit /And here you read how the forum wrote this post,The problem varies every time ./IMO not everyone wants open source out there.

[ramset]

.will respond in a few days ,this response above confused me more than helped me,also completely confused by Military comments as they apply to the request.

[rickfriedrich]

I'm avoiding mentioning names of the group in Orlando on the forum.

.will respond in a few days ,this response above confused me more than helped me,also completely confused by Military comments as they apply to the request.