Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[forest]

IMHO The flyback ouput is the same as input minus loses , because motor do not consume current and energy is only consumed when magnetic dipoles are broken as a heat and EMF inside the motor. In other factors motor is just a coil and this is boost converter.

Or maybe in other words : motor is COP = 2 (well almost , because some resistive loses), but in "normal way operation" the duplicate of input energy is lost (like the transfer of energy between two capacitors, remember ?) and it become COP < 1.
I'm not sure however if the duplicate is intrinsic nature of magnetic fields or just interaction with Earth's field.

P.S. Above is just a theory of course , unless confirmed

[tinman]

Hi Jeg, They are related in that they are both voltages generated by a coil, but there is a major difference.
If I apply a voltage Vi to a coil, the coil then generates a voltage that is in opposition
to the applied voltage Vi. Since this generated voltage is in opposition to the applied
voltage Vi, it is referred to as 'counter EMF' or 'back EMF'.

Now, if I then disconnect my voltage source Vi from the coil, the coil no longer has a voltage
applied to it, The magnetic field around the coil collapses and creates a voltage spike which
is the same polarity as Vi was (in other words this generated voltage spike is not in opposition)
and which acts to try to keep the current that was flowing in the coil going. This inductive switching voltage
spike is an assisting or aiding voltage. It is not acting counter to the original applied voltage Vi, so it shouldn't
be referred to as 'counter EMF' or 'back EMF'.

All the best...

That's actually incorrect Void.
When the source is disconnected from an inductor,and the magnetic field collapses around the inductor,the voltage across the inductor invert's,and is of opposite polarity to that of the source,as the inductor is no longer the sink,it is the source.

When a voltage is dropped across an inductor,current will start to flow,and a magnetic field builds.
When the voltage source is disconnected,the magnetic field now starts to collapse and cut through the windings in the opposite direction. This causes a voltage inversion across the coil,but the current will continue to flow in the same direction through the coil. 


Brad

[lancaIV]

In AC-circuit : positive half period ( to load) + negative half period( back to source: battery or energy provider ) :                                              for circuit frequenzy 50/60 Hz stability !
Net-grid controled fixed sinus Voltage / current !
The invention against "fix/-ed 3000/3600 RPM normated " electric devices :         
       
              variable speed/frequency drive/ controler !
    Up to 75% power savings. ! Or up to  400% use from the before electricity consume !
+ no-/load electric device controle

forest : the industry could double the output from each motor or generator device , electricity-to-torque and torque-to-electricity , but the the total global industry would become changed !
Reference : Fred Miekka publications,Akio Hara generator,geminielectricmotors,Catalan Hallbach array motoret cet.
Not  cw or ccw : both ! using in the same time !Negative permanent magnet field and positive permanent magnet field

[gyulasun]

So what sense makes it, if they just said, they did the test and will not show any evidence of it lol... 
... 
Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan,
   
Exactly!  This has been the point in all the posts written by those members you have put under moderation (now Void and TinselKoala included!): they all asked for evidence. And all they have got was psywar and then moderation, instead of evidence. 

Stefan, I would suggest you visit Mr Gear's team, you are both in Germany so travel cost should be at a minimum, and make sure in person on the test results they get from the measurements (remember they split into two teams to perform the tests).

Afterall, this is an overunity forum, you run it and there are ou claims. If this is not a reason to make sure about it, then what is?

Regards, Gyula

[tinman]

Yes the coil is part of that loop if I am understanding where you are going with that question. But it is out of phase and the negative energy is, if resulting in more work done than what can be accounted for from the input energy (100W minus the work of the motor and losses), shows that it is truly independent and above unity.

And that was my point of my comment on your video Rick.

In your video,your input energy was jumping all over the place,so how did you calculate your input energy?
Second-you do not know how efficient your fan motor is,so once again,how are you making your energy calculations?.How much energy dose it take to move X amount of CFM's of air?,and how much energy was your fan using to achieve this?. Your motor may have been using(i believe in the video,the best i could make out was 24v @ 1.2 amp's) 28.8 watts,but how much energy is required to have an air flow of(i think it was) 1600 CFM at atmospheric pressure.
Third-You had no output measurements at all as far as your inductive kickback output go's,so once again,how are you making your power measurements to claim OU?.

So lets say your fan is 80% efficient(highly unlikely),and your inductive kickback output is 10%. You still have a loss of 10% to heat,and this is a best case scenario. In actuality,your fan would be 50-60% efficient at best,and we(including yourself)have no idea as to what your electrical output was,nor do we have an accurate P/in for your fan either.

So, we have no P/in measurement--
We have no fan efficiency value--
We have no output measurements--
But you claim OU 
You also claim the EE guys have no idea what there talking about.
You say we live in a sci-fi make believe world 

I think you have it all backward Rick,as it seems that it is you making claims of the (know so far) impossible,and you do this without any data at all to back up your claim's.

No Rick,it is not us living in the land of make believe 


Brad