Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[a.king21]

Tinman:  Rick's fan device which he introduced is just the first process of many.
Later on there is the second and third stage process where reactive loops are introduced.
Eventually the device works with the input battery not discharging.
Let Rick explain the process as it unfolds and then criticize the final process if you still think it does not work.
I am surprised you are not asking questions about the next 2 processes.

[tinman]

 author=rickfriedrich link=topic=17491.msg538250#msg538250 date=1565361883]


I like how you say that bedini's chargers kill batteries,and yet you use the very same inductive kickback to charge your batteries lol.

The problem with you Brad is you are confused. On the one hand you are certain of the conventional theory and insist upon under unity dynamics but then you hope that you can experience the impossible. So then why are you so aggressive? If you were not so full of hatred then maybe you could actually learn something.

No,you are twisting things around-as you do.
I am referring to those like you--that is what i appose.
Those that make big claims of free energy and overunity,but never deliver or provide any proof what so ever. That crap about not being able to prove anything over the internet is garbage,and you use it only as an escape goat,so as you have a distorted reason not to provide any proof.
Funny thing is,most of us here have been doing the very thing you say cannot be done,and we prove one way or another whether a device works as claimed. So you are wrong again,and such devices can be proven over the internet. The reason you say your devices cannot be proven over the internet is because you have nothing to present that is OU.

Then there are these fantasy terms you lot use,like energy from the vacuum,radiant energy,and your best one yet-->out of phase energy lol.

Again, prove to us that you understand Tesla at all. You don't obviously. It is easy to say something, but you back up nothing. You are just a troll that hides behind your ignorance.

Rick
That is not me you are describing there-->that is you down to a T.
You are the one that continue's to make claim's but fails to deliver.
So where is your backup to your extraordinary claim's ?.

There is a proper and improper way of self-charging.

There is no self charging.
Charge only comes from a source,and that source cannot be the charge itself.
You are of course free to show us all a self charging battery,but we all know that will not happen.

I have already shown videos where the run battery remains at the same place for an hour while running the motor and powering significant loads. Here is one that demonstrates exactly what I was mentioning here in 2015 that you attack me about:

https://youtu.be/6he58A5xTIQ

More garbage.
I can show a battery running a resistive load,and the voltage will climb.
This just go's to show how little you know about batteries ,and what chemical reactions can take place within them when under load.
And as far as a negative resistance go's-->bollocks.More snake oil salesman bullshit.
If you had a negative resistance,then you have an energy source,not a sink.

There are other videos as well. I have shown these motors running at many of my meetings over two days where the batteries stay charged. Same batteries I have used for years (with old date stamps), so they are not ruined either.

Oh we have all seen the large 1000 amp hour battery banks running 50 watt motors before.
And we have all seen you show a voltage across those batteries.
But not once have we ever seen you do any accurate battery analysis after the run's.
Show me one video where you do a specific gravity test using a hydrometer on those batteries before and after running your motors for days.

The circuit is not entirely the same as the SSG so you don't know again.

The circuit works the very same way,only you use a hall switch,and bedini uses a transistor to make and break the current flow to the driving coils.
Both send the same inductive kickback to a second battery--there the same.

So you attack the SSG type circuit and claims and now you refer people to it.  Wow!

Once again,you twist things around.
I attack those that make false claims about the SSG circuit,in order to generate a cash flow-->like you do.

How do you know this? Proven to who? You really believe that you know everything and are the judge of everything? You are only working at high school level electronics.

Perhaps you'd like to put your skills up against mine ?
How about we see who can build the most efficient electric motor ?
Then we get a 3rd party to verify our claimed efficiency 

Then you show a video just because you are mentioned in it. You assume you figured that end part the first time. But we did all these options years before. Some of that goes back to the 80s as well. But here you are taking credit for something that others did before you. Maybe you figured it out by yourself, but it just goes to show that if you attack someone in your ignorance you may find out that you are the guilty one for your own violation.

I have seen all the variations of pulse motor circuit's,and there is not one like my twin BEMF circuit.
If you are so sure there is,post a schematic,and lets all see.

But why post a video like that and not attack the guy like you do me? You have some very preliminary readings from a guy with a very crude motor (which is fine as I have made many like that myself early on). You have a double standard Brad. If I quote all the attacks you hurled against me for showing similar things how do you account for that?

Now you see Rick,this is where you fall flat on your face.
Why would i attack a guy for replicating my circuit when it was me that asked him to replicate it for verification?. You see Rick,when i make a claim,i get some one else to replicate my work,and then get verification from them that it works as i say it dose. You on the other hand do not want anyone to replicate your work,as you know the result will be negative--such as Itsu's was.
He done an excellent job at replicating your system,but the wheels fell of your wagon when his accurate measurements came back negative. And i can tell you now,Itsu runs rings around you when it comes to electronics and accurate measurements.

Now tell us if this guy really had that be a self-runner in the long run. That is not the proper way to make that system self-run. I talk to thousands of these kinds of guys over the years. I get all the details and try and help them out. We all learn from each other.

The truth is Rick,you have never helped anyone achieve a self running device,as you do not even have one your self. You are lost in the bedini battery land of mistakes and misunderstandings.
But you know that-dont you Rick,and you do not want to let the cat out of the bag.

The first point of my company is to ensure battery longevity. So any method of self-charging that damages or degrades the batteries (such as in solar controllers) is avoided.

I would trust a good solar charge controller over your battery toasters any day.

For what is the point if you damage the battery and make it some consumable. That was one of the main reasons I rejected Bedini because he was a battery killer. The Tesla switch can be over unity self-running, but it will kill the batteries. The only way to do that is with high frequency or using capacitors like Benitez 100 years ago.

There is no OU tesla battery switch.
Speaking of knowing Tesla,please post Tesla's !battery switch!

So you have to look at the batteries over more than just a few minutes, cycles, or months to properly judge the results. It takes years to determine the effects on batteries. That is what I do. But batteries are not necessary, and neither are motors. But they are easy to see these things with, and everyone has them.

Lol--oh,years now lol.
You lot do give your self a larger leeway each year.
Please tell everyone here what exactly you !think! you are doing to the batteries?.

And one last thing.
We are all dying to know as to how this !out of phase! energy is any different to !in phase! energy.
You love using the term,and you say i know very little,so what is this !out of phase! energy?


Brad

[tinman]

Tinman:  Rick's fan device which he introduced is just the first process of many.
Later on there is the second and third stage process where reactive loops are introduced.
Eventually the device works with the input battery not discharging.
Let Rick explain the process as it unfolds and then criticize the final process if you still think it does not work.
I am surprised you are not asking questions about the next 2 processes.

Because it is the same quackery as the first process.

I am still awaiting those efficiency measurements from you,so as you can back up your claim that i am a liar.


Brad

[rickfriedrich]

Bad Brad, you are just a liar. I did not say that. The efficiency gain is one thing. But the battery charging is free energy. You intentionally twist what I wrote.

You continually divert from the debate and you just play these word games and diversions because you are trying to save face by attacking me with fallacies.

You don't understand what is meant by loss, efficiency and COP from what you say.

It is good to see that you finally admit that you are only making a slight improvement in efficiency,and not making free energy as you have been claiming to.
What you now must understand is that even though you might make a slight gain in efficiency,you are still running at a loss. These are the things you should be telling people,not that they can make free energy.
But in saying that,you would be better off just buying a top end fan,and saving even more energy,due to there higher efficiency.
But the record is straight--you admit to only making a slight improvement in efficiency,and not making free energy.
Now,how about your claims of having overunity machines ?
Are you going to set the record straight there as well-->it would be the right thing to do.
Brad

[rickfriedrich]

Brad,
Again, you just deflect from the points I have made and make up new fallacies and lies. The very first line shows this. That is why you are doing the lol, because you are laughing in the hope that your lie will mislead your friends here. Again, you just always assume the worst. And you are wrong.

I have provided proof. You are a fool to think you can prove OU claims over the internet and you know that. You really think that people should believe a meter reading? You will disbelieve any meter reading you don't want to believe. Everything I show you you automatically disbelieve. You just want the ability to fake any disproof claims because that is why you are here. So I'll say again:

POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

Now I do NOT mean that people who know each other in the real world and are in regular exchange should not trust each others claims in exchanging pictures and videos and words. While that is fine, it is still limited as people do make mistakes. But this forum and OUR is not set up that way. It is only an information exchange. This is also a highly controversial matter which affects many trillions of dollars. Naturally there is a lot at stake to suppress this information. And that is why we see so many trolls like you doing just that. You may not be paid, I have no idea. But your actions are highly suspect. As I pointed out you attack me for the very things the guy was doing in the video you just mentioned. This shows you have other reasons for attacking me. Maybe you got the visit Brad. Was that it??? I mean, people don't do what you are doing unless something drastic forces them to. If this was so silly then you wouldn't have put all this time into it. I mean, here you are telling people that there is something with the SSG after all. But all your lack of reasoning prior was in complete contradiction to that. There is therefore something else going on here. Maybe more than your hatred towards me. It is becoming more and more desperate and irrational. And therefore you are only proving my points more and more.

author=rickfriedrich link=topic=17491.msg538250#msg538250 date=1565361883]
I like how you say that bedini's chargers kill batteries,and yet you use the very same inductive kickback to charge your batteries lol.
No,you are twisting things around-as you do.
I am referring to those like you--that is what i appose.
Those that make big claims of free energy and overunity,but never deliver or provide any proof what so ever. That crap about not being able to prove anything over the internet is garbage,and you use it only as an escape goat,so as you have a distorted reason not to provide any proof.
Funny thing is,most of us here have been doing the very thing you say cannot be done,and we prove one way or another whether a device works as claimed. So you are wrong again,and such devices can be proven over the internet. The reason you say your devices cannot be proven over the internet is because you have nothing to present that is OU.
Bla, Bla, Bla.