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Does the magnetic-field exist ?

Started by postingsite, February 13, 2018, 02:52:28 PM

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   EDIT - Some mistakes have been corrected  .

   Maybe the magnetic-field is only the electric-field ( and sometimes it's effect on 'some things',  is a result of it being combined with the atomic nucleic bonding force ) .

    In the following,   compare how static( not moving ) Electrets interact with :
    -  A Coreless-Electromagnet
    -  A  Permanent-magnet

     [  NOTE : Permanent-magnets are usually made from highly permeable metals,  whereas  Electromagnets  can often just use copper,  so maybe highly permeable metals  have a stronger nucleic,  central bonding force at the nucleus( center ) of atoms which keeps protons and neutrons together   ]


    -  Coreless-Electromagnet explanation-  a moving  electric-field,  which is, or is also, spinning around the cross-section of a DC-carrying-wire ,   inducing an  illusionary magnetic-field( which is actually just another electric-field )  in other metallic objects,     so that the electromagnet is actually picking up metal objects just by using    electric-field  attraction.
        * -  I assume static( not moving )  Electrets  'Do' interact with static  Coreless-Electromagnets,  like pushing away etc.

    -  Permanent-magnet  explanation   -  a moving  electric-field( from aligned spinning electrons ),  which is  also  'focusing'( like a vortex or something ) the central bonding force at the nucleus( center ) of atoms which keeps protons and neutrons together( and maybe even keeps the electron spinning around the nucleus,  although yes, I know about positive and negative charges ),   
         So,    that because it also includes the  'focused'  central bonding force from the nucleus( center ) of atoms,   that  focused-central-nucleic  force  cancels-out( neutralizes )  the electric-field of the permanent-magnet  ,    'in terms'  of it's ability to interact with static( not moving )  electrically-charged  objects like Electrets.
        * -  I assume static( not moving )  Electrets  'Do Not'  interact with static  Permanent-magnets,  like pushing away etc.

       Look at diagrams( on the internet ) of the electric-field  compared to the magnetic-field  around a  DC-current-carrying-wire,    the magnetic-field spins around the cross-section of the wire,  while the electric-field  radiates( statically ? ) outwards from the center of the cross-section of the wire.
       (  I actually thought that the electric-field   was supposed to be  'perpendicular'  to the  magnetic-field  in  a  DC-current-carrying-wire,   but on the diagrams that does not seem true )

        I have a link to a webpage which showed photos of the  electric-field  around a permanent-magnet( or around a coil ),   achieved by simply  freezing  the permanent-magnet( or coil )  in water,  but the photos are no longer visible on the webpage,  but I'm not sure if that supports what I'm saying.

        Importantly,   I assume that if you sweep a highly-charged-Electret past a sheet of copper at a high speed,  that it will create  electromagnetic-eddies  on the sheet of copper,   which by my explanation in this post,  are actually only  electric-field eddies ( maybe also containing some atomic central-nucleic force )

postingsite

    Corrected some errors and changed the title .

postingsite

     As far as I know there's no way of viewing( or detecting )  Electric-fields  by using  those cheap commonly available  'Magnetic-field-viewers'  .
      ( so that doesn't help my argument ,  although I've not bothered to find out how they actually function  )

      However,   what if the "Central bonding force at the nucleus( center ) of atoms"  ,  which I said that is focused( like a vortex or something ) by the aligned spinning electrons in 'Permanent-magnets',   what if that  'atomic-nucleic-bonding-force'  is  GRAVITY,
       And because I explained that this happens more so in  'Permanent-magnets'( because of the high permeability of their material ),   then it's logical that   'Permanent-magnets'  would have the most noticeable visual interaction with other  'Permanent-magnets'  and metals.

        So,  maybe 'Permanent-magnets' interaction with other 'Permanent-magnets' and metals is what we call GRAVITY.

         Below is some of my previous post.

Quote from: postingsite on February 13, 2018, 02:52:28 PM

    -  Permanent-magnet  explanation   -  a moving  electric-field( from aligned spinning electrons ),  which is  also  'focusing'( like a vortex or something ) the central bonding force at the nucleus( center ) of atoms which keeps protons and neutrons together( and maybe even keeps the electron spinning around the nucleus,  although yes, I know about positive and negative charges ),   

postingsite

Quote from: postingsite on February 14, 2018, 06:55:49 PM

        So,  maybe 'Permanent-magnets' interaction with other 'Permanent-magnets' and metals is what we call GRAVITY.


      I wonder if you precisely measured the weight( mass ) of a  Permanent-magnet  with it's North pole facing to the centre of the earth,  and then compare that with it's South pole facing to the centre of the earth,    would there be any detectable difference .
     
       * -   The problem would be -  'what about all the sideways angles of the earths gravitational-field acting on the magnet  .

      However,      in all  Permanent-magnets ,   the field always flows right back into the magnet,   from one pole to the other,   so that may neutralize the experiment.
          -  But if so,  should the Permanent-magnet then be  weightless because of that,    or,   maybe because the field flows right back into the magnet,   then the  earth's-magnetic-field  somehow treats the entire  Permanent-magnet  as a single  proton or neutron .

     (   It's interesting with those old large garage-doors that use heavy-weights( instead of springs ) so that anyone can easily open or close those often huge doors,    theoretically you could raise a skyscraper or  large-rocket by that principle,   although I'm not sure if it relates to the above   )

      What about if it was possible to build a  Monopole-Permanent-magnet( some people have claimed to have made one ),   would you get different results for the above experiment  . 
        -  Imagine a very long Bar-Permanent-magnet( Magnet B ) ,  and then onto one end of that  Bar-Permanent-magnet,   you  attach  a  strong  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  with it's pole facing N to N( or S to S ) in relation to the very long Bar-Permanent-magnet( Magnet A ),  to neutralize that pole,  that may get close to being a  Monopole-Permanent-magnet.
            ( keep in mind that if  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  is to strong, it could neutralize all of the  first  magnet ,  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  ,   so that there would be no magnet all.


postingsite

Quote from: postingsite on February 15, 2018, 04:38:52 PM

     (   It's interesting with those old large garage-doors that use heavy-weights( instead of springs ) so that anyone can easily open or close those often huge doors,    theoretically you could raise a skyscraper or  large-rocket by that principle,   although I'm not sure if it relates to the above   )

      What about if it was possible to build a  Monopole-Permanent-magnet( some people have claimed to have made one ),   would you get different results for the above experiment  . 
        -  Imagine a very long Bar-Permanent-magnet( Magnet B ) ,  and then onto one end of that  Bar-Permanent-magnet,   you  attach  a  strong  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  with it's pole facing N to N( or S to S ) in relation to the very long Bar-Permanent-magnet( Magnet A ),  to neutralize that pole,  that may get close to being a  Monopole-Permanent-magnet.
            ( keep in mind that if  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  is to strong, it could neutralize all of the  first  magnet ,  Permanent-magnet( Magnet B )  ,   so that there would be no magnet all.

    The fact that there's an electromagnet( earths inner / outer core ) at the center if the earth, does not affect my argument.

    And below, is my diagram to try and support my theory that the Magnetic-field( from Permanent-magnets at least ) may be the  Gravitational-field .

     (  Although I can still think of arguments for why the Magnetic-field( from Permanent-magnets at least ) may be  Electric-field    )

      As you can see in the diagram,  comparing a counter-weighted-garage-door , to a  Permanent-magnet.
      The  Monople  example in the diagram is the method by which a Permanent-magnet  may be able to have some ( or more ),  or different,   effect ( interaction ) with the  Gravitational-field .