12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[i_ron]

I Ron
Are you THE Ron???
can you tell me if the device actually worked?? and IF so I would love to give you a call to talk about it??
Thanks
Jeff

The lesson was just how to drive the pendulum.
What you hang on it for power extraction is another story (that hasn't happened yet, here)

Ron

[bradpitt]

Ok her is my question...I have set something up to see what happens ....It is basically Milivoc set up with a pendulum and cross bar. What if on the pendulum I have a 2 pound weight and on the lifting end I have a 5 pound weight set on the ground with a cable set up too and when I swing the 2 pound weight it lifts the 5 pound weight up off the ground (it lifts it up about 3 times before it can not pick it up anymore) Pendulum is beinging lifted 2 feet and it lifts the 5lbs off the ground about 5-6 inchs......What is going on???
Anyone?
Thanks for the input

[greendoor]

Can somebody please explain to me how anyone with even half a brain for physics can think that the "flashlight" expermiment proves power output?  This is a fools paradise if anything ever was - and I will explain why:

The motion required to light an LED flashlight is very small.  Simply holding one flashlight and giving the input pendulum a little tap is going to give a small flash - for sure.  It is consuming hardly any power - possibly milliwatts. 

Hanging a whole bunch of the same flashlights on the output end is proving nothing either.  Sure - each one will extract a few milliwatts - but that is nothing compared to the power you are pumping into it with your hand.

You could equally "prove" massive Underunity by strapping the 12 flashlights onto your hand, and placing only one flashlight on the output beam ...

I'm intrigued by Milkovic, but this part of his "science" is utter bollocks that a child should be able to debunk. 

A pendulum is a storage device, and a beam is a lever.  I can't see any dynamics here that can't be explained by a pendulum an a lever.  One their own, pendulums and levers have a fascination but are clearly not overunity.  Combined, they get a little more interesting, and the maths obviously gets beyond most of us.  But i'm not seeing anything that should amuse a real scientist for more than a few minutes ...

I am not a skeptic - I suspect it's possible to build a gravity wheel that works - but i'm not seeing it here. 

 

[greendoor]

Ok her is my question...I have set something up to see what happens ....It is basically Milivoc set up with a pendulum and cross bar. What if on the pendulum I have a 2 pound weight and on the lifting end I have a 5 pound weight set on the ground with a cable set up too and when I swing the 2 pound weight it lifts the 5 pound weight up off the ground (it lifts it up about 3 times before it can not pick it up anymore) Pendulum is beinging lifted 2 feet and it lifts the 5lbs off the ground about 5-6 inchs......What is going on???
Anyone?
Thanks for the input

It's just like a swinging pendulum.  Potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, and then converted back into potential energy - it does this a few times until friction has consumed it all.  Net result: 0.

We are fooled into thinking that this is overunity - but it is simply a series of energy conversions, each a little lossy.

[utilitarian]

Can somebody please explain to me how anyone with even half a brain for physics can think that the "flashlight" expermiment proves power output?  This is a fools paradise if anything ever was - and I will explain why:

The motion required to light an LED flashlight is very small.  Simply holding one flashlight and giving the input pendulum a little tap is going to give a small flash - for sure.  It is consuming hardly any power - possibly milliwatts. 

Hanging a whole bunch of the same flashlights on the output end is proving nothing either.  Sure - each one will extract a few milliwatts - but that is nothing compared to the power you are pumping into it with your hand.

You could equally "prove" massive Underunity by strapping the 12 flashlights onto your hand, and placing only one flashlight on the output beam ...

You are absolutely right, and a wittier person than I has made the comment that the experiment with the flashlights would work equally well if the flashlight in the hand was broken.