12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[ltseung888]

 After examining the video carefully, it is found that the Weight W1 is lifted when the pendulum bob swings at maximum velocity. At this position, the Tension of the String will be the sum of the pendulum bob W2 x g and the extra force due to circular motion (Centrifugal or centripetal force).

The heavier weight W1 (74 pounds) can be lifted by the smaller weight of the pendulum bob (46 pounds).  The Lever Arms L1 appear to larger or equal to L2.  The anti-clockwise moment due to the Weight W1 time L1 initially is definitely greater.  But after build-up, the centrifugal force plus the weight of the pendulum bob will provide a Tension much larger than 74 pounds.

The Lee-Tseung lead-out energy theory considers the pulling up of the Weight W1 as Lead-out gravitational energy.  The lever system moves or rotates clockwise resulting in lifting of the Weight W1.  Lead-out energy comes at this stage.  Some energy transfer takes place as the pivot of the pendulum goes down but this energy is gained back later.

Thus the design of an efficient  overunity Milkovic system requires:
1.    Pendulum Bob Weight should be less than W1.
2.    Pendulum length should be large to get high velocity to provide Centrifugal force.
3.    L1 should be greater or equal to L2 to provide an initial larger anti-clockwise moment.
(The video helps to provide such insights.)

[Paul-R]

One comment:
The OUTPUT Energy of the Milkovic 2-stage pendulum is NOT the W1 times g times the total height.  The swinging lever is an oscillating system (seesaw).  That oscillating system also converts potential energy into kinetic energy and vice versa. 

What should be the correct OUTPUT Energy?

The oscillating system simply ports the energy from PE to KE. No significant loss or gain.

The output mass could contain a coil (moving) with a magnet (static). The coil could be connected to a variable resistor, submerged in water, whose consequent temperature rise could be measured.

As the resistance is lowered, the current increases, heat absorbed increases and therefore the output power will be seen to increase and will be recorded.  The distance moved by the mass will be decreasing.

[ltseung888]

Initially, the lever system has no oscillation as the anti-clockwise moment of W1 and L1 is larger.



Then the amplitude of oscillation of the pendulum gets larger, the Tension in the string gets higher because of the higher velocity at the lowest point.



"Suddenly", the clockwise moment of the pendulum side is larger.  The Weight W1 will be lifted.  Work is done.  Energy goes to the Lever System.  Energy of the Lever System can be regarded as (W1 x g x h') where h' is the higher of the height raised.



The Pulsing energy (Pd) can remain the same.  It will not impart energy to the lever system until the "critical angle".  At the "critical angle", the entire lever system energy (W1 x g x h') appeared.



If we regard the INPUT energy as Pd and the OUTPUT energy as (W1 x g x h'), we can easily get overunity.  A 12 time figure is within the possibility.



The observation is that the pendulum system itself is hardly affected with such a "transfer of energy".  Where does such energy come from?  One possible explanation is Lead-out Energy.  Gravitational energy is brought-in.

We can use the brought-in gravitational energy at the lever system.  This will be replenished again by subsequent bringing-in of gravitational energy again!



In conclusion, the varying Tension of the Pendulum String does the magic in two ways:

1.    Lead-out some gravitational energy during each pulse.

2.    Lead-out more gravitational energy in one big splash after build-up when the clockwise moment is higher.



Divine Revelation?

[zoelra]

I can't take this anymore.  The lead-out theory is total hogwash.  No legitimate/recognized scientific or academic group has ever validated the theory to be true.  In all the years of pushing the theory, not one working device has ever been put on display, and no proof of free energy gain from string tension has ever been demonstrated.

In a two stage oscillator, the pendulum swings due to gravity just as the mathematics predicts.  Centrifugal force of the swinging pendulum bob is responsible for the raising of the counter weight, and nothing else.  Any serious 2SO investigator would know this to be true.  Simple potential to kinetic energy conversion and centrifugal force is all that is going on here, all easily confirmed using accepted physics theory and mathematics.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh to say the theory is hogwash, but it hasn't been proven, and to claim the 2SO functions because of it is total hogwash.  Prove the theory first.

[ltseung888]

I can't take this anymore.  The lead-out theory is total hogwash.  No legitimate/recognized scientific or academic group has ever validated the theory to be true.  In all the years of pushing the theory, not one working device has ever been put on display, and no proof of free energy gain from string tension has ever been demonstrated.

In a two stage oscillator, the pendulum swings due to gravity just as the mathematics predicts.  Centrifugal force of the swinging pendulum bob is responsible for the raising of the counter weight, and nothing else.  Any serious 2SO investigator would know this to be true.  Simple potential to kinetic energy conversion and centrifugal force is all that is going on here, all easily confirmed using accepted physics theory and mathematics.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh to say the theory is hogwash, but it hasn't been proven, and to claim the 2SO functions because of it is total hogwash.  Prove the theory first.

The 225 HP posted in reply 2190 is PROOF already.  Both USA and China Military have similar pulse engines.  A lot of debunkers were paid to discredit it. 
Scientifically, if the energy of the lever system were provided by the pendulum system, the pendulum system should show a marked decrease in energy.  That should be a sudden decrease in the amplitude of oscillation.  The video clearly showed that it is NOT the case.  Energy must come from somewhere else.  Gravitational Energy is Lead-out - one possible explanation.

The book by Jovan Marjanovic is worth reading even though I do not agree with all the points.
Quote:
Basic Principles of Over Unity
Electromagnetic Machines
A Scientific View into the World of Free
Energy from Electric Charges and
Magnetic Fields
by Jovan Marjanovic, M.Sc.
Johann W. Goethe said that the biggest secrets
were the open ones. You look at them but you do
not see them. The same is true with the
electromagnetic field. It is known fact that after
switching off an electromagnet, its magnetic
energy will be returned back to the circuit,
usually as a spark. What was missed is the fact
that the magnetic energy performed work by
attraction of an iron bar and didn't consume
itself. This work, minus heat losses inside the
circuit, is free energy or over unity energy.

The goal of this book is to unlock the secrets of over unity and to teach people what is over
unity and how it works. The reader will learn basic ideas of making new ultra efficient
electric motors and generators and how to improve existing patents which use permanent
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More information and ordering
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We have all seen the video many times.  Only recently, I realized that the lever system energy appeared suddenly - with no apparent change in energy of the pendulum system (no significant amplitude change).  Energy must come from elsewhere.  Traditional Physics could not explain that.  If the total energy is conserved with no outside energy coming in - the pendulum system must lose some energy.  The amplitude MUST decrease significantly.
Johann W. Goethe said that the biggest secrets
were the open ones. You look at them but you do
not see them.

Hopefuly, the Divine One opened my eyes this time - after 10 years!
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