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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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onielsen

Hi Luc,

Have you tried loading the device with a real load (resistor) instead of the reactive load (capacitor). A reactive load gives back as much energy as it received during a full cycle.

Regards
Ole

pmgr

Quote from: gotoluc on June 03, 2018, 06:34:38 PM
Thanks :)
Here is another video demo focused on the coil return (collapsing field & collecting diodes) which many have been wondering how much power is actually returned from the coils discharges.
I can confirm at the low frequency Pierre was working at, it looks to be less then 10%. So if the diodes return is a big part of the effect we are not getting much from our low inductance 35 turns coils at low frequencies. However, the higher the frequency the more efficient and around 400Hz the scopes (in vs out) current probes measure the coil return to be about 80% of the input power but the output is much less.

Link to video: https://youtu.be/IaWbGIsAT14
Luc, interesting too see you can take your H-bridges all the way up to 200-400Hz.

Another thing you should take a look at is the current in each of the 6 coil sets. As I stated before, ideally, they should all be biased with the same current to get 6 even poles with coils 1 and 4 180deg out of phase, coils 3 and 6 180deg out of phase and coils 5 and 2 180deg out of phase. But for the way Pierre has them biased, there will be a 120deg phase difference between coilsets 1-4, 3-6 and 5-2.

PmgR

gotoluc

Quote from: onielsen on June 03, 2018, 08:29:37 PM
Hi Luc,

Have you tried loading the device with a real load (resistor) instead of the reactive load (capacitor). A reactive load gives back as much energy as it received during a full cycle.

Regards
Ole
Hi Ole,
Yes, I also tried it with resistive loads. No difference. The output will not be good until certain perimeters have been achieved.


Quote from: pmgr on June 03, 2018, 08:48:32 PMLuc, interesting too see you can take your H-bridges all the way up to 200-400Hz.

I think they can go up to 20kHz

Quote from: pmgr on June 03, 2018, 08:48:32 PMAnother thing you should take a look at is the current in each of the 6 coil sets. As I stated before, ideally, they should all be biased with the same current to get 6 even poles with coils 1 and 4 180deg out of phase, coils 3 and 6 180deg out of phase and coils 5 and 2 180deg out of phase. But for the way Pierre has them biased, there will be a 120deg phase difference between coilsets 1-4, 3-6 and 5-2.

PmgR
Is this done in the programming?  if so, then this is Jerdee's department and quite sure he will read this post.
Regards
Luc

pmgr

Quote from: gotoluc on June 03, 2018, 11:31:42 PM
Hi Ole,
Yes, I also tried it with resistive loads. No difference. The output will not be good until certain perimeters have been achieved.

I think they can go up to 20kHz
Is this done in the programming?  if so, then this is Jerdee's department and quite sure he will read this post.
Regards
Luc
Just make two measurements:

1. To determine if the 180deg phase shift exists, put a current clamp on coil 1 and one on 16 (pole 1 and pole 4). Or pick any other coil pair with 15 coils separation. E.g. coil 6 and 21 (pole 2 and 5), or coil 11 and coil 26 (pole 3 and 6). One clamp should read the opposite of the other clamp.

2.  To determine the 120deg phase shift, put a current clamp on coil 1 and one on coil 11 (pole 1 and pole 3), or e.g. coil 11 and coil 21 (pole 3 and 5), or coil 21 and 1 (pole 5 and 1). These traces should be shifted by 120deg.

PmgR

jerdee

What does the armature output windings do in a NORMAL A/C or DC generator while the fields are cut?


Again, everyone is over thinking.  Think simple.  Research normal generator basics!!!  Pierre is utilizing this effect, while ALL ENGINEERS ARE TRYING TO REMOVE IT in the mechanical version!!!  Find what engineers are trying to remove...and then you'll see why Pierre's device works.


Again, think simple, don't over complicate!!


Jerdee