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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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konehead

Hi Ole
I like reading the W.O.Smith writings especially understanding nothingness and the quadrature concepts.  It is hard to grasp but fun to think over after absorbing the ideas in printed words.


Making all those overlapping windings combine and cohere into amplified and overunity energy is probably what it is all about...
Perhaps making short list what will prevent coherence of the fields and rectify those problems would be good troubleshoot process for Luc and others working on this


jerdee

Quote from: konehead on June 04, 2018, 07:42:12 AM
Hi Luc
Am thinking why 10% recovery at slow speeds
And 80% at very high speeds?
Probably because of difference in pulse width?
If there is no  pulse width adjust to compensate for different frequncies,
Pulse width will be too fat at slow speeds and core and coil will over-saturate and backspike/flyback/backemf energy will be cntained witbin d and trapped within coil and core's  over-saturation period for that measly 10% return of energy you see.
However at high frequencies now the pulse becomes just right for good return energy of 80%
Combining and making induced generated energy with flyback  energy also perhaps will "cohere" using  short pulse width
perhaps this one of secrets
I dont know but nothing will get through (or out) when everything over saturated.
Perhaps chop pulse going into inductor at the perfect pulse width so instead of one long 1ms pulse instead give .1ms pulse width five times with .1ms off time between too for total of 1ms pulse period this just example but idea here is first find best pulse width for inductor and voltage and current input for best recovery
Then go from there


Yes, you are correct to a point except this is not the final secret.  I've placed duty cycle in the code to fully understand. :)  Luc has full understanding of this  We have overlap and hold control as the field rotates.   This was interesting at first to see and understand, but this is not the secret unfortunately.  Its a simple tuning factor or tweak that may be helpful later on.  This helps, but not enough.  You see Pierre wanted to have regulated input power, there is a reason for this.  As you build this device it reveals clues.  We can clearly see a systematic issue at each point we learn something.  Once you are presented with the problem..you know were to go from there.


For those still learning, review my posts on full bridge mode control.  This is still not enough but will certianly help, you'll see why when you do this method.  Currently we don't have enough pin outs on the MCU to control this and only using half bridge mode.  I have logic gates ordered and should be in any day to complete full bridge mode.  Otherwise, you will easily run out of pins on your MCU, and I'm postive we don't need to go to shift registers to get more outputs. 

Jerdee

T-1000

When making generator you move magnetic field across generator windings. This is constant field moving through windings. In Solid State Alternator (SSA - I call it) you move magnetic field by multiple overlapping windings arrangement. So please forget BEMF recovery/pulsing/etc for a moment and focus on making same magnetic field movement for induction. And do not overthink it because Faraday's law of induction is simple as that.

FixedSys

Quote from: jerdee on June 04, 2018, 12:39:21 AM
What does the armature output windings do in a NORMAL A/C or DC generator while the fields are cut?
If the field is cut, i.e. no flux then perhaps the armature is then a reactive load.

Quote from: jerdee on June 04, 2018, 12:39:21 AM
Pierre is utilizing this effect, while ALL ENGINEERS ARE TRYING TO REMOVE IT in the mechanical version!!!  Find what engineers are trying to remove...and then you'll see why Pierre's device works.
Perhaps you are referring to armature reaction and cross magnetizing effect? But this will not occur if the field is cut. It will occur however when the flux is cut.


jerdee

Quote from: T-1000 on June 04, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
When making generator you move magnetic field across generator windings. This is constant field moving through windings. In Solid State Alternator (SSA - I call it) you move magnetic field by multiple overlapping windings arrangement. So please forget BEMF recovery/pulsing/etc for a moment and focus on making same magnetic field movement for induction. And do not overthink it because Faraday's law of induction is simple as that.


AMEN!!!! 110% agree!!!