Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[listener192]

Hi L192,

If there's nothing special about the way the fields are generated then do you think that a standard 3-phased stator with suitable 3 phased current will give overunity too as claimed in the Molina-Martinez and Hyun Chung patent applications? This would make it possible to make a self-runner by using a three phased frequency converter which are off shelve devices.
Are you sure the fields are just added and not actually becoming coherent. If coherent the field strength is more than added. Then the currents are squared after the addition while as single fields they are squared before the addition. This gives big difference in field strength and is the key to extracting energy form the cosmic background according to W.B. Smith.

Regards
Ole

Sorry this is nonsense. If it were true, you would see the same behaviour in the distributed windings of induction motors, which you don't. If you complete a build yourself and make measurements with a flux probe you will see they just add. The Hyun Chung transformer works on the principle off induction due to the travelling wave and induction due to the pulsating component from the 3 phases.Read the patent again.


Regards


L192

[gotoluc]

These new 40 Amp 28 Volt switches are so robust that I can feed in power to the the point the stator windings will catch on fire. I tested just to see how far I can push it (as is) at 28 volts and the coils could only handle 20 Amps of the 40 Amps maximum. I could not go below 92Hz, anything lower I would have to reduce the voltage or it would burn the coils.
During the test the output was loaded with a 100 Ohm resistor which reached 23.7 Volts RMS = 5.6 Watts which has zero effect back to the input loaded or not.

Link to video demo: https://youtu.be/3mea6Dwh4p8

[konehead]

Hi Luc and everyone
Had thought the locked rotor winds does not just become induced from the  crawling motion of rotating stator field and make power out to load
But this locked rotor field will have 2nd purpose to induce itself right back into the overlapping stator field winds that are not beeing pulsed
Then this power created coming back into the stator winds shoves itself through the recovery diodes and into cap bank reinforcing filling of cap bank.
I would think this is already happening  but maybe not to the degree it should for looped operation perhaps experiment with pulse width and frequencies of rotation and somehow measure what does actually return to unpulsed stator winds coming back from locked rotor see.if way to increase this

[konehead]

Hi L192
If 3ph a.c. induction motor is in rotovertor mode with only two of three phases connected to a.c. input, the third virtual/ rotating transformer phase will show.in best case I have seen 5 times the input current circulating and near same voltage as compared to input currents and voltage
Of course this greater currents circulating not under load but using series transformer to extract to load overunity x 1.618 can happen believe it or not doesnt matter but what I am getting at is those unpulsed un-connected to a.c. Iinput 3rd virtual phase winds in rotovertor does perhaps do something as Ole theorizes along with W Smith and perhaps this is similar to my dumb  idea of unpulsed stator winds in Pierre generator sucking back power from induced locked rotor into unpulsed overlapped stator winding.
Maybe "coherent" if backemf forces in just-pulsed stator winds overlap in same direction of flow as locked rotor field "returned" energy ...such as 5 degree delay like echo as example.
Don't want to make big thing or argument as I might be way off base easy to throw out my idea but might be something important to ponder what Ole and W Smith are getting at don't dismiss so fast

[listener192]

Hi L192
If 3ph a.c. induction motor is in rotovertor mode with only two of three phases connected to a.c. input, the third virtual/ rotating transformer phase will show.in best case I have seen 5 times the input current circulating and near same voltage as compared to input currents and voltage
Of course this greater currents circulating not under load but using series transformer to extract to load overunity x 1.618 can happen believe it or not doesnt matter but what I am getting at is those unpulsed un-connected to a.c. Iinput 3rd virtual phase winds in rotovertor does perhaps do something as Ole theorizes along with W Smith and perhaps this is similar to my dumb  idea of unpulsed stator winds in Pierre generator sucking back power from induced locked rotor into unpulsed overlapped stator winding.
Maybe "coherent" if backemf forces in just-pulsed stator winds overlap in same direction of flow as locked rotor field "returned" energy ...such as 5 degree delay like echo as example.
Don't want to make big thing or argument as I might be way off base easy to throw out my idea but might be something important to ponder what Ole and W Smith are getting at don't dismiss so fast

No sorry this changes nothing regarding what I have said above. Not sure why you mention the rotoverter. If it were an over unity device why would we and yourself be bothering with the DZ generator? Resonant circuits that develop large circulating currents depend on hi Q. As soon as you load them Q reduces and with it any chance of extracting energy.






L192