Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[T-1000]

Vous pouvez faire seulement un nord et un sud a 10 de large  votre champ seras augmenter et oui la variation du champ a une importance

Hi Pierre,
Do you have any scope screnshot saved from the output coil which you could share with us? Would be interesting to see how the output waves look like.

Thanks!

[jerdee]

Pierre,

Merci. J'apprends toujours, mais je pense que je commence à comprendre l'importance de l'isolement tout en gardant toutes les bobines en série. Je visualise deux pôles plus grands générés après l'isolement des forces de champ 3X en rotation. C'est votre variation et votre intensité. C'est une embalance brillante et un jeu de chiffres. Je ne vois pas le besoin de plus de Mosfets maintenant, au moins à ce stade. Tout est dans le câblage. Encore à apprendre.

Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse rapide.

Jerdee


En

Pierre,

Thanks.  Still learning but think I'm beginning to understand the importance of isolation while keeping all coils in series.  I'm visualizing two larger poles generated after isolation of 3X field strengths in rotation. This is your variation and intensity.  It's a brilliant embalance and a numbers game .  I don't see a need for more Mosfets now, at least at this point. It's all in the wiring.  Still learning.

Thank you very much for your quick response.

Jerdee

[gotoluc]

Hi Pierre,
Do you have any scope screnshot saved from the output coil which you could share with us? Would be interesting to see how the output waves look like.

Thanks!

That was shared at the beginning of the topic but here it is again.
There is nothing else available.

Regards

Luc

[TinselKoala]

In Reply # 52 of this thread, Luc gives the ORIGINAL code sketch that Pierre said he used in the original apparatus. Here it is again, just as presented in that post, without any alterations:

/*
  Blink  This example code is in the public domain.

  modified 8 May 2014
  by Scott Fitzgerald
*/


// the setup function runs once when you press reset or power the board
void setup() {
  // initialize digital pin 13 as an output.

   pinMode(1, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(2, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(3, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(4, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(5, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(6, OUTPUT);
     pinMode(7,OUTPUT);
   pinMode(8, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(9, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(10, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(11, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(12, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(13, OUTPUT);
     pinMode(14,OUTPUT);
   pinMode(15, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(16, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(17, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(18, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(19, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(20, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(21, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(22, OUTPUT);
     pinMode(23,OUTPUT);
   pinMode(24, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(25, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(26, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(27, OUTPUT);
   pinMode(28, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(29, OUTPUT);
     pinMode(30,OUTPUT);
   pinMode(31, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(32, OUTPUT);
      pinMode(33, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(34, OUTPUT);
     pinMode(35,OUTPUT);
   pinMode(36, OUTPUT);
    pinMode(37, OUTPUT);
}

int x = 0;

// the loop function runs over and over again forever
void loop(){
int y= analogRead(0); // transforme x en une valeur de 0 à 20 (millisecondes)
  x= map(y,0,1000 ,1,100);



  digitalWrite(1,HIGH), digitalWrite(13,HIGH), digitalWrite(25,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH), digitalWrite(14,HIGH), digitalWrite(26,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(1,LOW),  digitalWrite(13,LOW),  digitalWrite(25,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,HIGH), digitalWrite(15,HIGH), digitalWrite(27,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,LOW),  digitalWrite(14,LOW),  digitalWrite(26,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,HIGH), digitalWrite(16,HIGH), digitalWrite(28,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,LOW),  digitalWrite(15,LOW),  digitalWrite(27,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,HIGH), digitalWrite(17,HIGH), digitalWrite(29,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,LOW),  digitalWrite(16,LOW),  digitalWrite(28,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,HIGH), digitalWrite(18,HIGH), digitalWrite(30,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,LOW),  digitalWrite(17,LOW),  digitalWrite(29,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,HIGH), digitalWrite(19,HIGH), digitalWrite(31,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,LOW),  digitalWrite(18,LOW),  digitalWrite(30,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,HIGH), digitalWrite(20,HIGH), digitalWrite(32,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,LOW),  digitalWrite(19,LOW),  digitalWrite(31,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,HIGH), digitalWrite(21,HIGH), digitalWrite(33,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,LOW),  digitalWrite(20,LOW),  digitalWrite(32,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,HIGH), digitalWrite(22,HIGH), digitalWrite(34,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,LOW),  digitalWrite(21,LOW),  digitalWrite(33,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,HIGH), digitalWrite(23,HIGH), digitalWrite(35,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,LOW),  digitalWrite(22,LOW),  digitalWrite(34,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,HIGH), digitalWrite(24,HIGH), digitalWrite(36,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,LOW),  digitalWrite(23,LOW),  digitalWrite(35,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,LOW),  digitalWrite(24,LOW),  digitalWrite(36,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second



    }

Now... count the number of delay(x) statements between turning ON a coil and turning that same coil OFF. You will note an irregularity or "Bug" that causes a difference in timing for some groups of coils. THIS IS IMPORTANT.
For example, pins 11, 23 and 35 are turned on, then THREE delay periods go by before these coils are turned off again. But pins 12, 24 and 36 are turned on, then only TWO delay periods go by before these coils are turned off again.

This "glitch" also occurs with the group 1,13,25 which also only gets TWO delay periods of on-time.

Is it deliberate, something Pierre used on purpose? If so, are the current "replicators" also putting in this timing "glitch" in their versions of the programming?
Is it a "bug", a mistake, something Pierre didn't intend? If so... doesn't this glitch screw up the smooth and even transitions that make the "rotary" magnetic field?

I have asked this quite significant question several times and I don't think it has ever been answered. Others, notably pmgr, have also picked up on this timing anomaly. Some of us have written sketches, or modified this sketch, to eliminate the "bug" or "feature" if that's what it is.


By the way, that "scope" shot above is from what I consider to be a toy, a thing with such low bandwidth and with such a low resolution screen that it is truly a pity that it is the only thing Pierre has to work with. A real oscilloscope, even a cheap Hantek USB scope, would be much better.

[r2fpl]

From my experience, the relays hang up and there is a high probability that it was the same with Pierre.
When all work, it is rather certain that one did not work or a few.
The difference in the Arduino code may result from the lack of correct placement last
  command line. You can not see it at once.

worked on new relays? I doubt
uses low currents so that the relays do not block? no
problem in the code? does not matter