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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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Quote from: pedro1 on June 21, 2018, 09:41:48 AM
Il n'y a pa de magie ou de résonance ou tout autre chose c'est simplement une aimant qui passe devant une bobine sauf qu'il faut juste replique cette idee corectement la rotation n'est qu'un aspect cherchez dans cettte direction et vous produirer un surplus d'energie

En.  There is no magic or resonance or anything else.  It's just a magnet that passes in front of a coil, except that you have to replicate this idea properly.  Rotation is only one aspect.  Look in that direction and you will produce a surplus of energy

Thank you for your answer Pierre,

If you can answer: Is this secret a way of accomplishing or rather just a part of the recipe?

Fr. Merci pour votre réponse Pierre,

Si vous pouvez répondre: Est-ce le secret d'accomplir ou plutôt juste une partie de la recette?

seaad

To Pierre and TinselKoala , all

Tinsel I'm agree with the most from you but the below puzzling me.
Quote: "Where does the 60.5 Hz come from? I know, and so do some of you.  It is coming from the Quebec electrical grid!"

Of course Pierres freq-meter is probably not so accurate but the grid in my country mostly is accurate to below  + - 0,1Hz.  Pierres meter reads a deviation of 0.5 to 0.7 Hz !!

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:

How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?

Regards Arne

Pour Pierre et TinselKoala, tous

Tinsel je suis d'accord avec le plus de vous mais le dessous me déroutant.
Citation: «D'où viennent les 60,5 Hz? Je sais, et certains d'entre vous aussi, ça vient du réseau électrique québécois!

Bien sûr, le Freq-mètre de Pierres n'est probablement pas aussi précis mais la grille de mon pays est la plupart du temps précise à moins de + - 0,1Hz. Le compteur Pierres lit une déviation de 0,5 à 0,7 Hz !!

Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:

Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?

Cordialement Arne

TinselKoala

0.5 to 0.7 is about one percent of the basic 60 Hz value. What are the accuracy specifications of the multimeter Pierre used?
I have a FLUKE 87-iii DMM, which still has a NIST-traceable calibration sticker on it. The accuracy Specification for this high-quality DMM, for Frequency at 60 Hz, is +/- 0.7 percent.
So a Fluke reading that was 0.7 percent high, of a true 60Hz signal, would be 60.42 Hz. And this would still satisfy the Specifications and the NIST-traceable calibration. Pierre's meter, perhaps of somewhat lesser quality (I don't know the model) showing 60.5 Hz.... could very well be reading an actual 60.00 Hz signal.

So I have no trouble at all believing that Pierre's "60.5 Hz" is actually indicating the 60 Hz line frequency, within the limits of accuracy of his meter. Unless proven otherwise, of course.

We have lost the opportunity now, since the unit is no longer operating, of seeing a comparison of the meter reading when we _know_ it is connected to the mains, and the meter reading when it is looking at the "output" of the device. But maybe Pierre will at least condescend to show a measurement of the mains frequency using that meter.

gotoluc

Quote from: seaad on June 21, 2018, 12:19:56 PM
To Pierre and TinselKoala , all

Tinsel I'm agree with the most from you but the below puzzling me.
Quote: "Where does the 60.5 Hz come from? I know, and so do some of you.  It is coming from the Quebec electrical grid!"

Of course Pierres freq-meter is probably not so accurate but the grid in my country mostly is accurate to below  + - 0,1Hz.  Pierres meter reads a deviation of 0.5 to 0.7 Hz !!

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:

How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?

Regards Arne

Pour Pierre et TinselKoala, tous

Tinsel je suis d'accord avec le plus de vous mais le dessous me déroutant.
Citation: «D'où viennent les 60,5 Hz? Je sais, et certains d'entre vous aussi, ça vient du réseau électrique québécois!

Bien sûr, le Freq-mètre de Pierres n'est probablement pas aussi précis mais la grille de mon pays est la plupart du temps précise à moins de + - 0,1Hz. Le compteur Pierres lit une déviation de 0,5 à 0,7 Hz !!

Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:

Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?

Cordialement Arne

Guys, the cheap frequency meter has already been addressed in the first topic. Pierre admitted it's a cheap meter and may not be reading the correct frequency. So lets not start this over again please. Unfortunately he did not connect it in the grid to see it's real accuracy using a clean 60Hz sine wave.

There's nothing more that will be given. We each decide to try building on our own. Pierre has forced no one, in fact I remember him saying we should not build yet as it's not working to his liking. So let's stop criticize Perre for the choice we made and respect his choices of not going public at this time. Lets give him the 2 to 4 months and see what he comes back with.. But if you alienate him, do you think he will come back?

Regards
Luc

TinselKoala

What difference does it make if he "comes back" or not? What useful information has he given, since the "relays burned up"?


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There's nothing more that will be given.


And what about you, Luc? Are you ever "coming back"?