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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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Void

Quote from: Jeg on December 31, 2018, 05:19:25 AM
We are struggling years on bench with Ruslan's bullshits! What you just described it has already been tested with so many different ways i really can't remember. Yes the timing that you say is correct. But you always need power to create high voltage peaks. No matter how much power you need, at the end of the superimposition we are again at the starting point. Pout=Pin-losses.
About this 90 degrees thing is a nice subject for loosing few years more until to understand that the above equation doesn't ever change. But this is only my personal opinion of cource ;)
Guys i open again the old rusty Kapanadje thread for the V8-tests.

Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping someone here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.


v8karlo

Quote from: Void on December 31, 2018, 10:20:40 AM
Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping somewhere here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.


I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?

Void

Quote from: v8karlo on December 31, 2018, 02:19:13 PM

I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?

Hi v8karlo. Not that it is relevant, but on my test bench, as always. ;)
I I come across something that I think is genuinely noteworthy, and if I feel like it,
I may show it. None of that changes the fact that the circuits you posted are not likely at all
going to do anything special, for the reasons I have already clearly explained. Sorry, but that
is just the reality of the situation.


Void

Quote from: v8karlo on December 31, 2018, 02:32:04 PM
It is better to do anything than Nothing like you do. I noticed that you two attacking anyone who has any idea at all.is it because you can not do something? You are smart guys. But you are not using that.

Hi v8karlo. Rather than trying to deflect, why not just address the legitimate issues raised?
I have explained clearly enough why it should not work. Why not just show a demonstration with
proper measurements of how those circuits you posted will improve the efficiency over just powering
a light bulb directly with a battery or with an inverter? You have already posted the circuit details, so posting
a demo should not be an issue. It should be quite straightforward for you to do if you have really measured
some unusual efficiency gain with these setups. All the best...


AlienGrey

Quote from: v8karlo on December 31, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
My best regards to you.


Stay inert and do nothing like you always do. For you, I am faking heat without power. Probably by magic.
Yeah magic is a keyword if they want to see how your device works and learn
then build the dam thing scope it and give us all a rest.
Happy new year to everyone.

But does it work if some clever Geza allocated you with a smart meter?  He, He!     

v8karlo Thing is Karlo is a thinker and a doer.