Bifilar pancake coil overunity experiment

[tinman]

It was the video that triggered my coming here, because I had noticed that Tinselkoala is a reliable experimenter.
There is an intriguing comment from him on the investigation of the COP, he seems to suspect a measurement issue:
"I just haven't yet posted the video of that further investigation yet. Hint: How would you test to see if the PBT itself is actually causing the OU readings?"

TK has the same scope as myself,and the grounds are common.
This is cause for concern ,as it links all ground points together,and so the isolation transformer is no longer isolated.

Then at these high frequencies,capacitive coupling can play a large part in measurement error.

I would remove the BPC,and replace it with the single wound coil he was using to drive the LED,and see if the OU results can still be had--i suspect so,having also experimented with this circuit.


Brad

[ayeaye]

What are your technical arguments that they would be insignificant?!

That it all seems to boil into oscilloscope working properly. 1.4 MHz, or what it was, is not so great frequency, so with a good oscilloscope that is well calibrated and properly connected, there should not be any significant errors. That said, there always are errors of course, as i said.

[F6FLT]

That it all seems to boil into oscilloscope working properly. 1.4 MHz, or what it was, is not so great frequency, so with a good oscilloscope that is well calibrated and properly connected, there should not be any significant errors. That said, there always are errors of course, as i said.

"seems to boil"... "not so great"?!...
I asked for technical arguments, i.e. quantified at least in terms of order of magnitude, not impressions. Even signals of less than 100 KHz can induce significant currents in a probe loop.

[ayeaye]

"seems to boil"... "not so great"?!...

Yes i always don't talk by numbers, may be too bad but, sorry.

Also TinselKoala and Partzman have exclusive right to errors, no one can take it from them.

[F6FLT]

Errors can only be made by people who study, try and experiment because they do not know, know that they do not know, and want to understand. Making errors is a step towards the truth.

People who know everything and find ad hoc explanations for everything cannot be wrong. They are omniscient. It is these useless people who reinterpret scientific theories in any way, who tell us that scientists are idiots because academic formatted and that an incoherent diagram, but well drawn in a pretty image that appeals to children, will work, even before they build it, measure it and thus prove it, which they are unable to do.