New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

[telecom]

I can't find  US patent 2011/0198958

[gotoluc]

Here is the patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20110198958A1/en

and a picture of the test device. I also attached (below pic) a full size zip file of the picture as it's too large for the page.

Regards
Luc

[telecom]

Hi Luc, glad to hear  from you!
Have you tried that set up?

[onepower]

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They analysed forces between permanent magnets but not the work. Only ∫F.dl is significant. As the magnetic flux is conservative (according to conventional Maxwell electromagnetism), work is conserved over a cycle.

The work component relates to change, flux can be conserved yet change in many ways. Whenever a permanent magnet moves flux is conserved yet the field changes within a space.

If they have a real experimental setup that works, it can't be explained by conventional Maxwell electromagnetism and therefore the explanation they give is not correct.

Speculation because your assuming it can't be explained simply because you don't understand it. Which begs the question...is everything you do not understand un-explainable and a violation of the laws of physics and the conservation of energy?. I think it's a little woo woo how the critics say they believe in the conservation of energy yet the moment they see something they do not understand they are always the first to say it must have been violated?. Obviously they do not believe it or not understand it.

Same remark applies to US patent 2011/0198958: if a permanent magnet motor works, a new theory is needed, the old one being not relevant for explaining this fact, question of pure internal consistency of the conventional theory.

A new theory does not imply a violation of physics or a violation of the conservation of energy. We could easily build a new theory by applying the laws we have in a different way using new insight, we do it all the time in science.

So we have to wait for the experimental evidence.

Wait?, why?.

[gotoluc]

Have you tried that set up?

No, I just noticed the topic a few days ago. I'm busy with other things so don't plan on trying but it looks interesting.
Maybe this would be of interest to user name Floor?  looks right up his alley.

Regards
Luc