Open Source Vs. Patenting

[ring_theory]

One problem my friend, if I see what you design, and I have money, then I get my lawyers to patent it, that I sue you into the stone age(and everyone you sold plans to). Then I change it a bit so it doesn't quite work show that product, no one has faith in it and it disappears. 7 years of slander and mystique put it out of the main stream, and that is about it. If you the original inventor decide to build it after the 7 years, I just threaten you and your family, heck I might even do something more than scare you. Or just buy you off, cough(Steven mark(s)). Its a game of chess and one doesn't win chess by making one winning move its a series of moves that leads up to that one move and keeping your opponent from seeing your end goal.

The main problem with that whole scenario is that your not going to be winning the suit. The original inventor is going to walk into the courthouse and take all your money. BAH! Your opponent allready knows what your end goal is. It is no secret! Let's see Hmmm Family taken, dead, or disassociative. Scare? Hmm good luck with that! Something more? LOL! Offense and Defense doesn't only apply to chess. Your not going to like what you find when you get here.     

[d3adp00l]

documentation can be manipulated, and the inventor will, has always, lost and exhausted his monetary supply to fight. Look at all of the examples in the last hundred years, Tesla, the inventor of so much (including radio) had his patent taken until it suited the government to give it back after he was dead. Just go through and read about anyone who comes up with an idea that might actually work, there is a short list of what happens to them, whether they patent it or not. But what can be said is that none of them are around to discuss a darn thing, are they? And if they are even said to be alive, good luck finding them. If you guys want to discuss the possible outcomes of patenting or opening it up, lets do it sighting examples.
Heres example #1 for patenting, Stan Meyer. Need I say more? O.K. I will Tom Ogle. I can go on.
An example of no patents, oh wait some major company patented it, and the inventor is gone and broke. So that leads to #3
Patents owned by large companies/government that bury the info. Steven Mark(s),Tesla etc.
Just look at the history of the moves and the pattern will arise. Once you see the pattern, then you will see that 99.9% of the moves are covered.
People generally have two motives for building O/u or even efficient new power sources, MONEY, or for the general good of mankind. From there the choices of the individuals are easy to predict, and therefore easy to defeat.

[ring_theory]

documentation can be manipulated, and the inventor will, has always, lost and exhausted his monetary supply to fight. Look at all of the examples in the last hundred years, Tesla, the inventor of so much (including radio) had his patent taken until it suited the government to give it back after he was dead. Just go through and read about anyone who comes up with an idea that might actually work, there is a short list of what happens to them, whether they patent it or not. But what can be said is that none of them are around to discuss a darn thing, are they? And if they are even said to be alive, good luck finding them. If you guys want to discuss the possible outcomes of patenting or opening it up, lets do it sighting examples.
Heres example #1 for patenting, Stan Meyer. Need I say more? O.K. I will Tom Ogle. I can go on.
An example of no patents, oh wait some major company patented it, and the inventor is gone and broke. So that leads to #3
Patents owned by large companies/government that bury the info. Steven Mark(s),Tesla etc.
Just look at the history of the moves and the pattern will arise. Once you see the pattern, then you will see that 99.9% of the moves are covered.
People generally have two motives for building O/u or even efficient new power sources, MONEY, or for the general good of mankind. From there the choices of the individuals are easy to predict, and therefore easy to defeat.

BAH!

[lancaIV]

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB337066&F=0
from 1930;

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE4311631&F=0
from 1993;

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE202006009117U&F=0
from 2006;

Did Mr. Chang received the best service from his patent attourney ?

Never ex(s)pect today high service quality or you will have to control their work,
as consequence that you do not need them !


S
dL

p.s.: Old patent concepts/ideas can also have a function of a price guard,
       they can have a worser efficiency ,in relation to a new explored invention,
       but the material costs for the old one can be cheaper,
       and probably the manufactoring machines are less sophisticated.
       
       

[d3adp00l]

I am confused to the point you are trying to make with the patent list urls. But I find the  old one to be quite funny, I drew better than that in junior high.

And is "bah" a reply? JK.

Anyways the only way I can see to win the game is this find something that works, make a bunch of then on your own dime. Get a bunch of people who can understand and replicate the idea together and give them one, have them do the same. Keep it quiet, out of all head lines. Then install the devices in useful applications, and on the count of 3(or word from the orginal inventor) everyone floods it all out to local people, showing them the exact how and why. Have everyone around you building or buying them. In multiple places on the face of the globe. By the time mainstream news hit it there will be too many who understand it, and no one really knows who thought of it first, it simply IS. If a couple thousand units showed up all around the world at the exact same time, its check and mate.

Of course doing that in the U.S. would be an act of treason, and punishable by death. And I am being serious, the gov would get really bent by not being able to exploit the device for military only purpose. They would make us pay anything to keep their military advantages, as if they don't have enough already.