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Power from repelling magnets

Started by norman6538, July 20, 2019, 05:01:53 PM

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ayeaye

Quote from: citfta on October 01, 2019, 01:59:40 PM
I posted a video on Floor's magnet, motion and measurement thread showing real measurements.

Where is your video? Do you mean the thread "Magnets, motion and measurement" in mechanic? I did read that thread, though maybe not thoroughly enough, didn't yet find your video, but i will look for it. Did you see my video?

I'm sorry but, i don't force anyone to do anything. Just posted my two cents in hope that it may help. Don't start a conflict please, i know how it starts and why. Assuming you are a good guy, i do, i know some here are not. When the things are complex, everyone has their doctrine how they deal with it. And they contradict each other and cause conflict. Try to avoid that please. What i say, everyone is free to disagree with, the same about what anyone else says. Please try to work together, instead of creating any unnecessary divisions, please.

What concerns me doing things, i have done things, you see them here. How much i should do for it to be enough? I did but i cannot afford time for that right now, i'm sure this is true about several others, please please don't accuse them. The same may happen one day to these who do experiments now. They cannot afford the time to do experiments, yet they can afford to say what they know or what they think. I think that's fine.

All i'm about, i'm about research. I'm very interested in research.

And many thanks to Norman for what he did. Good that people know the things. These threads though, people read them who are interested in similar things, thus theory should be talked there, for people to see. Furthermore, this thread was posted in the theory subforum, not in the devices subforum, so the more there can be talk about theory and general things, not only about particular experiments.

Hey, be friends. Thank you.

gyulasun

Quote from: ayeaye on October 01, 2019, 04:02:26 PM
Where is your video? Do you mean the thread "Magnets, motion and measurement" in mechanic? I did read that thread, though maybe not thoroughly enough, didn't yet find your video, but i will look for it.
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It is two pages back in that thread:  https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/msg538952/#msg538952

Useful video and I appreciate it, thanks Carroll and also Norman for sharing.  Hopefully Norman has been recovering nicely.

Gyula 

ayeaye

Quote from: gyulasun on October 01, 2019, 05:31:20 PM
It is two pages back in that thread:  https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/msg538952/#msg538952

So it's that video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ChN24x_HU&feature=youtu.be

Absolutely great video, Citta ! I have not analyzed it very thoroughly, but i think that's it, you did it :)

You certainly don't owe me nothing, but talking about my video that i mentioned, see my this drawing  https://ia800903.us.archive.org/22/items/Flcm4/pmmbp12.jpg . This shows how the asymmetry of the magnetic field (two poles) can enable overunity. In theory any asymmetric field can do continuous work, this is one way how a magnetic field can do it. I'm sure that the effect that you showed is based on the same asymmetry. I have not thoroughly analyzed your case, but i showed the theoretical reason in the simplest case, involving only two magnets.

ayeaye

Quote from: ayeaye on October 01, 2019, 05:38:43 PM
Absolutely great video, Citta ! I have not analyzed it very thoroughly, but i think that's it, you did it :)

citfta*

ayeaye

norman6538 or anyone who can afford it, would you please replicate the ctfta experiment, or do a similar experiment. It looks credible and very well done. But replication is formally necessary and as important, if not more important than the original experiment.

This excellent linear movement by ball bearings, i'm not a metal worker and i cannot do that. This is why i suggested to use pressure sensitive resistors. I said if a good enough dynamic movement cannot be made, it may be possible to make it static. Then measure forces at static positions using pressure sensitive resistors. Or scales like ctfta did, by measuring the force necessary to make a magnet to move. In that case it needs the magnet to slightly move, may though be possible to do that reliably.

Below is the drawing of the citfta experiment, made with dia. The shield magnet is slided in between the two magnets perpendicular to the surface of the drawing. Theoretically that should also need no force, in the reality it may need some. It looks like that it should work, that would be great, hope it's not yet another waste of the time,

With the magnets that i have i tried, seemed to be some two times difference, but it is difficult to decide that when the magnets are not fixed in place.