Power from repelling magnets

[ayeaye]

I started the experiment above, of measuring getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field. Unfortunately the forces are too weak (0.01 N and less) to be measured by any means that i can afford, measuring them requires a precise electronic force gauge. The information about that experiment is in that thread  https://overunity.com/18363/getting-energy-from-asymmetry-of-the-magnetic-field-experiment/new/#new ,

[sm0ky2]

Decrease distance =F^2
Get closer until you reach the magnitude of your instruments

[ayeaye]

Get closer until you reach the magnitude of your instruments

It doesn't work. It depends on the field lines, there is no position closer for the disk where is still enough asymmetry.

[ayeaye]

How to say that, for the disk of that size, there is no position closer to the magnet, where is enough asymmetry. Or at least i couldn't find any. It all depends on the shape of the magnetic field, that is the field lines. To get the disk closer to the magnet and still have enough asymmetry, one may need a smaller disk. But i don't know what it supposed to be.

I used the core of a computer fan, a rather small computer fan. I just took a computer fan and cut off everything from it, except the core. I don't know how to have an even smaller disk. The problem with the computer fan is also that it has a very small ball bearing. Thus the radial forces increase the friction a lot. If the disk were even smaller, the bearing could stuck completely. Maybe there should even be a non-magnetic bearing.

As likely most still read this thread, i say also here. First i could clearly feel the forces with my hand, in spite that they were mostly less than one gram. Second, from any position at the positive side, starting from the 6 o'clock position, it always moved fast to the neutral position. But at any position at the negative side, it did stay in place and didn't move. This indicates less forces at the negative side and less energy when moving through it. This is also how i found the position of the disk with the most asymmetry.

The force of friction should be added to both the positive and negative forces. The problem is that we don't know what the friction under a certain force is, and it is difficult to measure, though by some means it should still be possible. But i think we can safely consider that when the force is less, the radial force is also proportionally less, and thus the friction is less. So in calculation when the positive energy is greater than the negative energy not considering the friction, then it would also be greater when considering friction.

If you ask what the scale there is on the disk, this is just to measure the position of the disk and the distances moved. I drew it using a ruler, so that the units on the line where the center of the nut is, are millimeters. There supposed to be an object next to the disk to show what the position is, what object it should be, frankly i have not yet figured out.

[shylo]

you won't figure it out,

your perception of the lines of force are incomplete.
I believe they expand in all directions, infinitely.
and it goes in all directions, not N S.
artv