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Simple and powerful principle

Started by nix85, March 17, 2020, 07:30:59 PM

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Willy

There are over unity devices and methods that work.

However, the burden of proof is on the claimant.

Willy

   perpetual

Water is difficult to compress and for the most part, is considered as practically
in-compressible. At the very bottom of the oceans the pressure may compress it
by a little more than 1 %.

Air is much easier to compress than water.
A party balloon will measurably shrink in volume when submerged to ten feet
depth in water.

That balloon is less buoyant at ten feet of depth than it is when near the surface of
the water. This is because buoyancy (the tendency of an object to float in a fluid) is
caused by the difference in density of that object and the fluid it is immersed within.

Density is the relationship of an objects volume to its weight.  More specifically, density is
"The mass per unit of volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and
temperature".

If an object of a given volume weighs more than an equal volume of a fluid it is immersed
in, that object sinks, If an object of a given volume weighs less than an equal volume of a
fluid it is immersed in, that object floats,  Steel floats in liquid mercury.  Mercury has a
higher density than steel.

A balloon's volume shrinks when it is submerged below water,  Its weight remains unchanged.
This means that its density has changed. It is more dense when submerged, and it is therefore
less buoyant.

        to be continued.

perpetual

Willy Firstly, you can call me Nix as it is my actual nickname as clearly written

I know well there are (many) overunity devices and methods that work
and i spoke about many of them in my threads below, as for burden of proof
no one wants to prove you anything, realize that, instead be grateful inventors
share their worthy efforts with the world.

https://overunity.com/18619/another-lenzless-idea/
https://overunity.com/18391/two-kinds-of-induction-henry/msg541681
https://overunity.com/18272/kunel-device/
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/
https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/
https://overunity.com/18434/simple-and-powerful-principle/
https://overunity.com/18848/plausons-converter/
https://overunity.com/18592/few-general-formulas
https://overunity.com/19384/mechanical-resonant-oscillation-as-basic-overunity-method/

Now, you 'expound' on few absolute physics basics i believe every first grader knows
and you turn these absolutely basic things into long paragraphs as if you are talking quantum physics

Realize, i am am in depth student of physics for many years on a level that is far above the level
you represent.

Some of it is summarized in my formulas https://justpaste.it/c5avk
And about some of it i speak on my blog https://vril12.wordpress.com/

With that said, i know perfectly well water is almost incompressible and that air is much easier to compress than water and that balloon is less buoyant at ten feet cause it shrinks and becomes denser than it is when near the surface of the water just like in vacuum it expands, and that buoyancy is caused by the difference in density of that object and the fluid (does not have to be fluid) it is immersed within. And that density is the relationship of an objects volume to its weight aka "The mass per unit of volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature". And that denser matter sinks in a medium of less dense matter lol, you repeat yourself, and that steel floats in liquid mercury and that mercury has a higher density than steel. And that balloon's volume shrinks when it is submerged below water and its weight remains unchanged but it's more dense due to higher pressure.... ALL these are absolute basics and it is funny you write it all as if all this is not perfectly understood by any first-grader, and you even add to be continued as if more "relevations" to come lol.

Understand, the mere fact, and you said it yourself but you don't get it, that air is pumped below the cups at same depth, SAME PRESSURE, and the fact it takes only few bubbles to make the right weight buoyant and it takes many more bubbles to make the left weight buoyant alone proves right one with a spacer is far more efficient. This by itself does not necessarily mean it is overunity, but Travis has proved it is so, by looping it, now, that you don't believe him is your problem only. You will learn that you are wrong.

Nix

Willy

            Nix

No need to be so caustic in the tone of your comments.
If the basics, empirical experimentation and replication are beneath you,
then perhaps you would prefer that I not post in this topic.
Just say the word and I will start a parallel topic instead of posting here.

perpetual

Not caustic one bit, just stating facts. You did expound on basic physics principles of density and
buoyancy as if you are making some big revelation.

Then you caustically put basics and empirical experimentation/replication in one basket, two different things.

Of course these basics are beneath me, there is nothing in what you wrote a firstgrader does not know. And i don't mind you posting here, i just don't like you making claims it's not overunity
when you did not even test it.

As for empirical experimentation/replication of this principle, i said i did not and will not replicate
this one, maybe i will for fun some day surely not to prove anything to you.

Point is, as stated before, that this method of generating buoyancy is clearly proven as highly
efficient. As for overunity, i believe Travis he did loop it in 2010. as he says. It is rediculous to
think he would go to such length and invest so much money and time if it was not overunity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbJWBtoFMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y

pressure = force / area (means small amount of water in narrow high tube can explode a barrel below)

I will say again, Travis' system, altho overunity, is absurdly bulky, overcomplicated, pretty much horrible. But still, i have no doubt it is overunity.


Nix