Heins' new videos and few corrections

[nix85]

Nix85
The problem with creation, gods or big bangs is one of cause and circular reasoning because the moment we say a god/big bang created something were then left with the question of what created the god/big bang in the first place. It is circular reasoning and the basis of logical fallacies whereby the answer is either false or not an actual answer to anything.

I think the only question we need to ask is... if creation is the norm them what created the creator?. Another creator?, what created that creator?, another creator?... Ad infinitum, Ad nauseam. At which point the whole farce simply implodes in on itself degenerating into something from nothing which is totally unacceptable.

Typical in vain attempt to reduce Spirit to mind, withdraw beyond the polarity of mind and you will realize you are ray of the Absolute, since rays are never really separate, you are God literally.

Free Energy only implies that the energy transformed has no direct cost to us like sunlight for example. We did not create the sun, or the energy from it and it costs us nothing ergo... Free Energy. I know many like to make up there own bs definitions to serve there own beliefs however the language is clear, Free(no cost to us) Energy(motion and/or form of motion).

Everything is free in nature, so question of cost in sense of money is irrelevant.

You could call energy from fossil fuels free if you got access to free oil.

But in the context of overunity, it is clearly implied free system is one that does not depend on mechanica or chemical input of any kind. So solar panel might be called a very inefficient OU system.

What is also clearly implied is that energy is obtained from a source like magnetic field or gravity and that system can be self fed.

I have been watching Thane Heinz' work from day one and it's really not that difficult to understand. It's not overunity it simply transforms part of the energy present which usually opposes the motion of the rotor before it starts opposing. Only the magnetic field component can create the rotor drag we call Lenz Law therefore reducing it seems like a pretty obvious place to start. Transform the magnetic field change component an into an electric field change before it can cause drag and Lenz Law does not apply. Do you understand?, Lenz Law is not invoked because it does not apply. For the same reasons Earnshaw's theorem does not apply to magnetically levitated tops. People need to understand what the author of any law or theorem actually said and implied before they start jumping right into wild ass speculation.

Wrong. You don't understand what's going on so you resort to bad explanations. Too bad you settle for that.

First realize what magnet really is. It is a just a resistor for the Primary Light (omnidirectional universal pressure), the most subtle and most powerful energy present everywhere. As Keely says "Ether is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel." - and this is just this plane, density goes x49 for each plane above.

Harmonized electron orbits literally polarize this flow locally creating a dipole, a faucet, a double fountain.

Now, Heins is extracting this energy by delayed lenz, it is OU in a sense that it doesn't require mechanical input energy altho Heins is contradicting himself on this sometimes claiming it requires no mechanical input sometimes saying it only reduces need for mechanical input by 80%.

Like i wrote before, it is not a good way to go, there are better ways. Think in simpler terms. It is fascinating how blind we are to solutions right under our nose. Air cores and right angles, i said enough.

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Nix85

Typical in vain attempt to reduce Spirit to mind, withdraw beyond the polarity of mind and you will realize you are ray of the Absolute, since rays are never really separate, you are God literally.

"You are ray of the Absolute", the ray you are looking for I am not young nix85. I wouldn't say I'm trying to reduce Spirit to mind because the mind is supposedly the electrical impulses in the empty space between neuron cells in our brain. Matter is 99% space which is full of energy thus we are energy, the stuff in between matter most say does not exist.

Spirit: the nonphysical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Does this not describe what I said above, the nonphysical non-material stuff between matter most assume is empty which we know is not?. Science tells us no space is empty as Feynman/wheeler said, it is seething with energy, more energy than most men can even imagine. Apparently science has more answers with respect to what we and our soul or spirit are and our place in the universe than religion ever did, imagine that.

But in the context of overunity, it is clearly implied free system is one that does not depend on mechanica or chemical input of any kind. So solar panel might be called a very inefficient OU system.
What is also clearly implied is that energy is obtained from a source like magnetic field or gravity and that system can be self fed.

Overunity is a contradiction in terms in my opinion. It means more than unity or a broken symmetry which implies action/reaction are not equal and opposite and something has come from nothing ergo creationism. However Free Energy does not imply something from nothing rather an external energy source which may or may not be fully understood by some.

First realize what magnet really is. It is a just a resistor for the Primary Light (omnidirectional universal pressure), the most subtle and most powerful energy present everywhere. As Keely says "Ether is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel." - and this is just this plane, density goes x49 for each plane above.
Harmonized electron orbits literally polarize this flow locally creating a dipole, a faucet, a double fountain.

That sounds like both Russell and Keely your quoting, I have read the work of both in depth. Personally, I found that after a few years of study it begins to sound more like a cult than anything and never seems to lead to any practical real world applications. For these reasons I moved on and found my own way, I am thankful I did.

Now, Heins is extracting this energy by delayed lenz, it is OU in a sense that it doesn't require mechanical input energy altho Heins is contradicting himself on this sometimes claiming it requires no mechanical input sometimes saying it only reduces need for mechanical input by 80%.
Like i wrote before, it is not a good way to go, there are better ways. Think in simpler terms. It is fascinating how blind we are to solutions right under our nose. Air cores and right angles, i said enough.

On this I agree, I have watched Thanes work from the beginning and he's been grasping at straws from day one. No offense to anyone but in my opinion he falls into the some success but no idea why category. The last part was a nice touch and there are some things which speak for themselves, well said.

[nix85]

Nix85
"You are ray of the Absolute", the ray you are looking for I am not young nix85. I wouldn't say I'm trying to reduce Spirit to mind because the mind is supposedly the electrical impulses in the empty space between neuron cells in our brain. Matter is 99% space which is full of energy thus we are energy, the stuff in between matter most say does not exist.

Spirit: the nonphysical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Does this not describe what I said above, the nonphysical non-material stuff between matter most assume is empty which we know is not?. Science tells us no space is empty as Feynman/wheeler said, it is seething with energy, more energy than most men can even imagine. Apparently science has more answers with respect to what we and our soul or spirit are and our place in the universe than religion ever did, imagine that.

There is no matter, no space, no time, these are illusory properties of the mind and mind itself is imagined, created by the Self.

Overunity is a contradiction in terms in my opinion. It means more than unity or a broken symmetry which implies action/reaction are not equal and opposite and something has come from nothing ergo creationism. However Free Energy does not imply something from nothing rather an external energy source which may or may not be fully understood by some.

There is no contradiction cause something constantly comes from nothing. Something is illusory but not the less real as an experience.

That sounds like both Russell and Keely your quoting, I have read the work of both in depth. Personally, I found that after a few years of study it begins to sound more like a cult than anything and never seems to lead to any practical real world applications. For these reasons I moved on and found my own way, I am thankful I did.

I didn't mention Russel, nothing i said is from him altho i did study his work.

Just because those who try to revive work of the geniuses usually fail and turn it into a cult you wrongly dismiss the original work and assume it leads to nothing practical.

His contributions are more than valuable. Read and see Keely's model of subatomic particles as interference patterns of 3 subvortices, later known as quarks, also depicted by Bentov, read his 40 laws and you might start to realize how far ahead he was.

https://ia800306.us.archive.org/31/items/dashedagainsttherock00colviala/dashedagainsttherock00colviala.pdf

To quote from Dan A. Davidson's book "A Breakthrough to New Free Energy Sources"

"By 1896 Keely had perfected his system to the point where he had built and demonstrated his airship to the press as well as the War Department (now the Department of Defense). The craft was a circular platform about 6 feet in diameter. (11) Mounted on it was a small stool placed before a keyboard. Attached to the keyboard were a collection of finely tuned resonation plates and vibratory mechanisms. (14) Keely explained that when these plates were polarized with "negative attraction" the craft would rise and float above the ground. (11) The craft was now under the influence of the etheric polar current. By damping out certain notes Keely caused the airship to accelerate to any desired speed. (11) When the War Department witnessed his demonstration in an open field the airship went from zero velocity to 500 miles per hour within a few seconds. There were NO ACCELERATION EFFECTS TO KEELY who was sitting before the keyboard on the stool in the open air and controlling the airship. The government officials, although impressed, could see no use for the complex device so did not pursue the matter further."

On this I agree, I have watched Thanes work from the beginning and he's been grasping at straws from day one. No offense to anyone but in my opinion he falls into the some success but no idea why category. The last part was a nice touch and there are some things which speak for themselves, well said.

He is tapping into it without really knowing what he's doing.

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DEFINITIONS.

ATOMOLES are elementary units of matter uniform in size and
weight, and exist in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.

ATOMS are multiple combinations of atomoles, and they also exist
in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.

SIMPLE MOLECULES are formed by the union of two atoms of the
same kind.

COMPOUND MOLECULES are unions of two atoms of dissimilar
kind.

COMPLEX MOLECULES are unions of molecules with other mole
cules or atoms.

PITCH is the relative frequency of vibration.

VIBRATION is the rhythmical motion of a body within itself.

OSCILLATION is a rhythmically recurring translatory movement.

TRANSMISSIVE ENERGY is rhythmical motion of condensation and
rarefaction produced by the vibrating or oscillating body in the
medium in which it is immersed.

ATTRACTION is the mutual approach of aggregates caused by con
centrated waves of harmonic energy, tending to move in line of
least resistance, by becoming the centre of one series of concen
tric waves instead of two or more series.

HARMONY is the simultaneous vibration of two or more bodies
whose harmonics do not produce discords, and whose funda
mental pitches are harmonics of the lowest pitch, or are a
unison with the resultant notes or overtones, or undertones, of
any two or more of them.

ETHER is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel.

ELECTRICITY is the oscillation of the atomoles of an atom.

INDUCTION is the transmissive force of the electric vibration in
ether.

MAGNETISM is the mutual attraction of juxtaposed bodies vibrat
ing at unison or harmonic electric pitches.

GRAVITY is the mutual attraction of atomoles.

GRAVISM is the transmissive form through a medium of atomoles
in the fourth state, or a medium composed of atomolini.

ATOMOLINI are ultimate units of atomoles, and when in a liquid
state are the media for the transmission of gravism. The
illimitable divisibility and aggregation of matter is a logical
sequence.

1. Law of Matter and Force :
Coextensive and coeternal with space and duration, there
exists an infinite and unchangeable quantity of atomoles, the
base of all matter ; these are in a state of constant vibratory
motion, infinite in extent, unchangeable in quantity, the
initial of all forms of energy.

2. Law of Corporeal Vibrations :
All coherent aggregates when isolated from like bodies, or
when immersed or confined in media composed of matter in
a different state, vibrate at a given ascertain able pitch.

3. Law of Corporeal Oscillation :
All coherent aggregates not isolated from like bodies, oscil
late at a period-frequency varying with the tensions that
augment and diminish the state of equilibrium.

4. Law of Harmonic Vibrations :
All coherent aggregates are perpetually vibrating at a
period-frequency corresponding to some harmonic ratio of
the fundamental pitch of the vibrating body ; this pitch is a
multiple of the pitch of the atomole.

5. Law of Transmissive Vibraic Energy :
All oscillating and vibrating coherent aggregates create,
in the media in which they are immersed, outwardly propa
gated concentric waves of alternate condensation and rarefac
tion, having a period-frequency identical with the pitch of
the aggregate.

Scholium: All forms of transmissive energy can be focussed,
reflected, refracted, diffracted, transformed, and diminished in
intensity inversely as the square of the distance from the origi
nating source.

6. Law of Sympathetic Oscillation :
Coherent aggregates immersed in a medium pulsating at
their natural pitch simultaneously oscillate with the same
frequency, whether the pitch of the medium be a unison, or
any harmonic of the fundamental pitch of the creative aggre
gate. .

7. Law of Attraction :
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in unison, or har
monic ratio, are mutually attracted.

8. Law of Repulsion :
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in discord are
mutually repelled.

9. Law of Cycles :
Coherent aggregates harmonically united constitute centres
of vibration bearing relation to the fundamental pitch not
multiples of the harmonic pitch, and the production of secon
dary unions between themselves generate pitches that are dis
cords, either in their unisons, or overtones with the original
pitch ; from harmony is generated discord, the inevitable cause
of perpetual transformation.

10. Law of Harmonic Pitch :
Any aggregate in a state of vibration develops in addition
to its fundamental pitch a series of vibration in symmetrical
sub-multiple portions of itself, bearing ratios of one, two, three,
or more times its fundamental pitch.

11. Law of Force :
Energy manifests itself in three forms : Creative, the vibrat
ing aggregate ; Transmissive, being the propagation of isoch
ronous waves through the media in which it is immersed;
Attractive, being its action upon other aggregates capable of
vibrating in unisons or harmony.

12. Law of Oscillating Atomic Substances :
Coherent atomic substances are capable of oscillating at a
pitch varying directly as the density, and inversely as the
linear dimensions from one period of frequency per unit of
time to the 21st octave above, producing the creative force
of Sonity, whose transmissive force (Sound) is propagated
through the media of solids, liquids, and gases, and whose static
effect (Sonism) produces attractions and repulsions between
sympathetically vibrating bodies according to the Law of Har
monic Attraction and Repulsion.

13. Law of Sono-thermity :
Internal vibrations of atomic substances and atomic mole
cules are capable of vibrating at a period-frequency directly
as their density, inversely as their linear dimensions, directly
as the coefficient of their tension from the 21st to the 42d
octaves, producing the creative force (Sono-thermity), whose
transmissive force (Sono-therm) is propagated in solid, liquid,
gaseous, and ultra-gaseous media, statically producing adhesions
and molecular unions, or disintegration, according to the Law
of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

14. Law of Oscillating Atoms :
All atoms when in a state of tension are capable of oscillat
ing at a pitch inversely as the cube of their atomic weights,
and directly as their tension from 42 to 63 octaves per second,
producing the creative force (Thermism), whose transmissive
force (Rad-energy) propagated in solid, liquid, and gaseous
ether, produces the static effects (Cohesion and Chemism) on
other atoms of association, or dissociation, according to the
Law of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

Scholium : Dark radiant heat begins at absolute zero tem
perature, and extends through light, chemical rays, actinic
rays, and infra-violet rays, up to the dissociation of all mole
cules to the 63d octave.

15. Law of Vibrating Atornolic Substances :
Atoms are capable of vibrating within themselves at a pitch
inversely as the Dyne (the local coefficient of Gravity), and
as the atomic volume, directly as the atomic weight, producing
the creative force (Electricity), whose transmissive force is
propagated through atomolic solids, liquids, and gases, pro
ducing induction and the static effect of magnetism upon
other atoms of attraction or repulsion, according to the Law
of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

Scholium : The phenomena of Dynamic Electricity through
a metallic conductor and of induction are identical. In a
metallic conductor, the transmission is from atom to atom,
through homologous interstices, filled with ether, presenting
small areas in close proximity. In crystalline structures, heat,
which expands the atoms, by twisting them produces striae,
increases the resistance, etc. Between parallel wires and
through air the induction takes place from large areas through
a rarefied medium composed of a mixture of substances, whose
atoms are separated by waves of repulsion of various pitches,
discordant to electric vibrations ; the said atoms sympatheti
cally absorb the vibrations and dissipate from themselves, as
centres, concentric waves of electric energy which produces
heat and gravism.

16. Law of Oscillating Atomoles :
Atomoles oscillating at a uniform pitch (determined by their
uniform size and weight) produce the creative force Atomolin/,
whose transmissive form, Gravism, is propagated through more
rarefied media, producing the static effect upon all other atomoles,
denominated Gravity.

17. Law of Transformation of Forces :
All forces are different forms of Universal Energy unlike in
their period-frequency, merging into each other by impercepti
ble increments ; each form representing the compass of 21
octaves. Each form or pitch may be transformed into an
equivalent quantity of another pitch above or below it in the
scale of 105 octaves. The transformation can occur only ,
through its static effect, developing vibrations of harmonic
pitches above and below their fundamental vibration, or de
veloping with juxtaposed aggregates, resultant and difference,
or third order, as the case may be.
Scholium : A table of the intervals and harmonics of the
normal harmonic scale will indicate the ratios in which the
transformation of forces will occur.

18. Law of Atomic Pitch :
Atoms have each a different and definite pitch, at which
they naturally vibrate.

Scholium : Atomic pitch is determined directly from its
simple spectrum.

Scholium : Atomic pitch is determined by computations from
its associate spectrum with all other atoms, as in known spectra.
Scholium: Atomic pitches are more important working data
than atomic weights ; tables of atomic pitches must be precise.

19. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Rad-energy :
The higher harmonics and overtones of projected rad-energy
are of a pitch sufficiently high to cause the atom to expand;
by causing the atomoles to vibrate systematically the same
influence will cause the atom to contract, and thus by chang
ing the volume, atomic pitch is varied.

20. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Electricity and Mag
netism :
Electricity and Magnetism produce internal vibrations in
the atom, which are followed by proportional changes in vol
ume and, therefore, pitch.

21. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Temperature :
Atoms in chemical combination oscillate with increasing
amplitude directly as the temperature, and simultaneously ab
sorb overtones of higher harmonics, producing expansion of
volume and diminution of pitch.
Rule : The gradual approach of the temperature of har
monic combination can be observed by mutually comparing
superimposed spectra; chemical combination commences when
the fundamental lines of each spectrum bear harmonic ratios
by linear measurement.

22. Law of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation :
Atoms not isolated and in a state of tension between forces
that oppose and increase the equilibrium oscillate bodily at a
pitch that is a resultant of the atomic weight, atomic volume,
and tension.

23. Law of Variation of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation by Pressure :
The frequency of atomic oscillation increases and dimin
ishes inversely as the square of the pressure.

24. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Temperature :
The force of cohesion diminishes inversely as the square of
the distance the atoms are apart, and the force of the chemi
cal affinity diminishes in the same ratio. Heat increases the
amplitude of the oscillations in a direct ratio to the tempera
ture of the natural scale.
Scholium : New thermometers and accurate thermometric
tables, on the natural bases, wherein doubling the temperature
doubles the pitch of the transmissive energy, are required.
Such a table of temperature will bear natural relations to
atomic weights, pitches, specific heats, chemical affinities,
fusions, solubilities, etc., and will disclose new laws. One
table for each must be constructed.

25. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Electricity :
The electric current destroys cohesion and chemical tension
directly as square of current in amperes, inversely as the
resistance in ohms, inversely as the chemical equivalent, and
conversely as the coefficient of the difference between the
freezing and volatilizing temperature of mass acted upon.

26. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Sono-thermism :
Diminishes the tensions directly as the quantity of heat
developed, and in antithetical proportion to the harmonics
absolved.

27. Law of Chemical Affinity :
Atoms whose atomic pitches are in either unison, harmonic
or concordant ratios, unite to form molecules.
Corollary: When two atoms are indifferent, they may be
made to unite by varying the pitch of either, or both.
Scholium : This necessitates the construction of tables rep
resenting variation of atomic pitches by temperature, press
ure, etc.

Scholium: Tables of all harmonics and concords, and har
monics founded upon a normal harmonic scale, are equally
essential.

Scholium: Optical instruments may be made to measure
pitches of energy.

28. Law of Chemical Dissociation :
If the pitch of either atom, in a molecule, be raised or low
ered ; or, if they both be unequally raised or lowered in pitch
until the mutual ratio be that of a discord ; or, if the oscilla
tion amplitude be augmented by heat until the atoms are with
the concentric waves of attraction, the atoms will separate.
29. Law of Chemical Transposition :
New molecules must be harmonics of the fundamental pitch.
30. Law of Chemical Substitution (too complex for brief state
ment) .

31. Law of Catalysis:
The presence of harmonics and discords.

32. Law of Molecular Synthesis and Combination (Organic) :
The molecular pitch must be a derived harmony of the
radicals.
Scholium : Reconstruction of electric units to represent
pitches and amplitudes.

33. Law of Chemical Morphology :
The angle of crystallization is determined by the relation
between the molecular pitch of the crystallizing substance to
the vibration-density of the liquid depositing it.

34. Law of Atomic Dissociation:
Overtones of high rad-energy pitches produce separation of
the atomoles and recombinations among the atomolic mole
cules of the atoms.

35. Law of Atomolic Synthesis of Chemical Elements :
Harmonic pitches of atomolity produce association of ethericatomolic
particles to form atoms : the kind of atom is determinable
by the pitches employed.

36. Law of Heat :
Atoms under the tension of chemical combination oscillate
with an amplitude directly as the temperature, inversely as the
pressure, and as the square of the specific heat. Diminishing
the pitch of oscillation inversely as the square of the distance
of the atoms apart, and simultaneously increasing the vibrating
pitch of the atom by absorption of overtones and higher har
monics.

37. Law of Electro-chemical Equivalents :
An atom vibrates sympathetically under the influence of
electric energy, such undertones of which are absorbed as are
a harmonic or harmony of the electric pitch ; the amount of
energy absorbed being directly as the arithmetical ratio of the
undertone of the fundamental electric pitch.
Scholium : A table of electro-chemical equivalents on the
normal basis will indicate the electrical conditions and amount
of chemical change.

38. Law of Cohesion :
The cohesion between atoms diminishes directly as the
square root of the pressure and temperature, and as the square
of electric intensity.

39. Law of Refractive Indices :
A table of the refractive indices of substances indicates their
molecular pitch ; and in connection with crystalline form the
phase of molecular oscillation.

40. Law of Electric Conductivity :
Electric energy is transmitted through homogeneous bodies
with a completeness in direct proportion as the atoms are more
or less perfect harmonics of the electric pitch, but not at all
through substances whose atoms are discordant to the electric
pitch ; also through molecular substances, when their resultant
notes are harmonics of the electric pitch, the transmissions
being inversely as the temperature, directly as the density
diminished in proportion to the amount of crystallization, and
inversely as the cube of the dyne, also directly as the recipro
cal of the local magnetic intensity.

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More from Dan Davidson's book, neat detail for those persuing HHO.

"About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporize water instantly into energy. (11) He named this energy ETHERIC FORCE. Keely called the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force : DISSOCIATION. (6) After a lifetime of researching the laws governing the vibrations which produce etheric force, Keely believed that the power he tapped was the governing medium of the universe. This force controls the advance and recession of the sum and planets in their movements across the heavens. It reigns in the mineral, vegetable, and animal kingdoms and is the common fore regulating all. Keely proved in demonstration that matter can be subdivided by different orders of vibration. Each subdivision evolves entirely new and distinct "elements". He was able to analyze seven distinct levels of subdivision. Perhaps this is an affirmation of the occultists who have proclaimed that there are seven levels of universal energy. Present atom smashers with their billion volt power levels have nothing new on Keely's harmonious control and subdivision of matter. He showed that all sympathetic streams of energy are composed of triple currents of vibratory flows. This applies to magnetic, electric, gravital, and cerebelic (brain and mind) flows. These laws govern all molecular masses from the innermost subdivision of the atom to the galaxies and universe itself. These flows radiate from suns and stars to planets on down the scale to the very core of the atoms. Since these flows are vibrational in nature and tuned to their respective spheres Keely believed this was the basis for the term "music of the spheres". Gravity is actually a triple connective radiation rather than a flow. It is an eternally existing force entering all forms of matter. Keely believed that gravity is the basic source form which all matter emerges. Keely called the stream of energy coming into the earth at the poles form the sun the polar stream. The three currents of force in this poles stream are magnetism, electricity, and gravity. (4)From all of Keely's experiments and research he determined and wrote out a system of the vibratory conditions governing the aggregation of energy into molecular structures and their resonance relations to each other."