Minimal Lenz Generator V2

[BorisKrabow]

When a rotor magnet passes a coil, on the approach the magnet field cuts the windings on that side of the coil causing current to flow in the whole coil in 1 polarity, and when the magnet is just passing the departing side of the coil, current in the coil occurs in the opposite polarity.  Diodes or not, there will be lenz occurring on both affected areas of the coil. On approach there will be repulsion to the incoming magnet and repulsion passing dead center cutting the departing windings. When the magnet is crossing dead center, both the approaching side of the coil and the departing side are being influenced by the rotor magnet equally where no current flows in the coil as a whole. That is how the AC waveform happens when the magnet passes the coil.

Mags

Hi Mags !  If the current in the coil does not flow, then there is no resistance to the movement of the magnet and no Lenz . If you take a small motor and connect a light bulb, it will be more difficult to rotate the motor than without a light bulb.Therefore, when the diode does not pass current at this moment, there can be no resistance to the rotor and Lenz cannot arrive .The reason is the lack of current in the coil without which a magnetic field can not be formed affecting the magnet
     As for the polarity of the voltages from approaching and removing the magnet, that is, a good illustration from the textbook.
  This phenomenon allows the use of a diode for undesirable polarity.

[Magluvin]

      Hi Mags !  If the current in the coil does not flow, then there is no resistance to the movement of the magnet and no Lenz . If you take a small motor and connect a light bulb, it will be more difficult to rotate the motor than without a light bulb.Therefore, when the diode does not pass current at this moment, there can be no resistance to the rotor and Lenz cannot arrive .The reason is the lack of current in the coil without which a magnetic field can not be formed affecting the magnet
     As for the polarity of the voltages from approaching and removing the magnet, that is, a good illustration from the textbook.
  This phenomenon allows the use of a diode for undesirable polarity.

Hey Boris
Well now you show a different magnet coil orientations.   In your new orientation, the mushroom of flux from the magnet affects all sides of the coil equally.  In the previous orientation, stop thinking about the center of the coil as the point of origin of the coils field. As the magnets face comes in front of the windings of the coil, it is that portion of the coil that is mostly being induced by the moving magnets field. Lets say that the coil has a 3ft diameter core. Even your new orientation will show a very very weak current with the magnet moving in and out, because the dense flux of the magnet is not anywhere near any windings.  But if we brush that magnet against a portion of the windings, we will get more current. 

So our rotor approaches the rt side of the windings first, and lets say current is going up in those wire in front of the magnet, the field produced by the windings on that part of the coil will go against the rotor magnet motion.  And the same with the departing side of the coil, current will go upward(reversing the coil cirrent direction as a whole) and also produce a field that opposes the rotor magnet motion....
The new orientation does the same essentially, if we look at the angle of the flux from the magnet in relation to the windings.  When the magnet goes in, the magnets field cuts all windings in the same direction, and the field in the winding opposes the magnets field direction of movement. The same with pulling the magnet in the outer direction, the coils fields oppose the fields of the magnet in the outer direction also.  So if we use the word 'opposition' in relation to the magnets direction of field motion, we dont necessarily need to call it attraction or repulsion, once we understand what is actually happening between the moving magnet fields and the windings reactions.

So with a diode, you are only avoiding 1/2 of the induction of the coil by the magnet and half of the lenz in a sense. You will either have induction and lenz on the approach of say a positive polarity, or on the departure from dead center, a negative coil output and lenz once again, depending on the diode polarity set.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Hey Boris
Well now you show a different magnet coil orientations.   In your new orientation, the mushroom of flux from the magnet affects all sides of the coil equally.  In the previous orientation, stop thinking about the center of the coil as the point of origin of the coils field. As the magnets face comes in front of the windings of the coil, it is that portion of the coil that is mostly being induced by the moving magnets field. Lets say that the coil has a 3ft diameter core. Even your new orientation will show a very very weak current with the magnet moving in and out, because the dense flux of the magnet is not anywhere near any windings.  But if we brush that magnet against a portion of the windings, we will get more current. 

So our rotor approaches the rt side of the windings first, and lets say current is going up in those wire in front of the magnet, the field produced by the windings on that part of the coil will go against the rotor magnet motion.  And the same with the departing side of the coil, current will go upward(reversing the coil cirrent direction as a whole) and also produce a field that opposes the rotor magnet motion....
The new orientation does the same essentially, if we look at the angle of the flux from the magnet in relation to the windings.  When the magnet goes in, the magnets field cuts all windings in the same direction, and the field in the winding opposes the magnets field direction of movement. The same with pulling the magnet in the outer direction, the coils fields oppose the fields of the magnet in the outer direction also.  So if we use the word 'opposition' in relation to the magnets direction of field motion, we dont necessarily need to call it attraction or repulsion, once we understand what is actually happening between the moving magnet fields and the windings reactions.

So with a diode, you are only avoiding 1/2 of the induction of the coil by the magnet and half of the lenz in a sense. You will either have induction and lenz on the approach of say a positive polarity, or on the departure from dead center, a negative coil output and lenz once again, depending on the diode polarity set.

Mags

So if you use a diode, what advantage do we have by bypassing 1/2 of the induction cycle?
Mags

[citfta]

Hi Mags,


I think I understand what Boris is proposing.  If you look at the picture he posted in the first post of this thread you will see a couple of pieces of metal as part of the rotor.  I think his idea is that if you draw current from the coil as the magnet is leaving the coil, the current in the coil will attract the metal part of the rotor and help to overcome the attraction of Lenz.  Since he has not shown any kind of working device I am assuming this is only theory on his part.  It would be an interesting experiment to try I guess.


Boris, if I misunderstood what you are proposing then please correct my mistakes.


Respectfully,
Carroll

[BorisKrabow]

Hi Mags,


I think I understand what Boris is proposing.  If you look at the picture he posted in the first post of this thread you will see a couple of pieces of metal as part of the rotor.  I think his idea is that if you draw current from the coil as the magnet is leaving the coil, the current in the coil will attract the metal part of the rotor and help to overcome the attraction of Lenz.  Since he has not shown any kind of working device I am assuming this is only theory on his part.  It would be an interesting experiment to try I guess.


Boris, if I misunderstood what you are proposing then please correct my mistakes.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Hi  Carroll ,  Everything is right . (  Sorry I use google translator       )
         The following happens on this device :
  1. when the coil counteracts the outgoing magnet it at the same time attracts pieces of iron

  2. Asymmetry applied . Pieces of iron are attracted to the coil, neutralizing the Lenz effect.
            At this moment, the current and magnetic field in the coil disappear, since the magnet completely leaves the coil.
       Iron parts leave the coil without being affected by braking forces .
            So it turns out Free Energy       Next, we are waiting for the repetition of this cycle.  ....  Eternal Holiday    ....

                                                                                              I am grateful that attention was paid to my modest work  .

   Regards,
   Boris