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Ultrasonic / mechanical cavitation used to transmute matter

Started by ChileanOne, September 20, 2020, 12:56:32 PM

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stivep

RESPONSE#1


read this first and than go here to the video:
https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/msg550943/#msg550943


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-_T1nWqP0

In regards to opinion of  Dr Roy I must say that mentioned video from above 
is done in the  environment  similar to 19 century   alchemy lab.
- there is lack of analysis  by means of 
-EDXRF   
-Electron microscope
- chromatography
-  HPGE  with Ortec/ Canberra software to  assign energies into  its byproducts  if Beta, Gamma/ Alpha is active after  transmutation.
Ironically  truthful and shockingly obvious is the fact that all of these Italian chemists,  nuclear scientists, engineers
didn't have access  to the listed by me  equipment in their Italian Universities
and I have all of it in my lab..also  the  place the  examination was provided  looks like church  room, or
old Harvard storage room and not like  fully prepared  experimental facility.,
The weight  measured  was  using  scale that was tragically inaccurate.   I can buy similar one  in supply store for American elementary school.

Note: yes I don't have chromatography  analyses at present time  but that is like go around the corner to the  Hunter College and ask
a professor for help.

Wesley

ramset

Wesley Thank you for commenting and Hunter mention [My Mom went to school there for short time till life changed plans and geography] :)
Will be a few days till things get sorted,
respectfully Chet

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

stivep

RESPONSE#2



Equipment needed to  provide  full proof of experiment  made by Fabio Carzone
1. EDXRF picture #1
link1.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3gPFfgDp8

link2. https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y   
all of the equipment shown here  can be applied to  measurement of  radiation, especially  Neutron and Gamma.
link3.  https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4?t=211
Video presents ORTEC  Detective EX ( many of them)
the new one cost around $93 000
And software  Gammavision32 ~$4000
However there are  inexpensive devices giving you similar results for ~1000 dollars
Video starts not from the beginning - you can rewind it



Wesley

ChileanOne

Before start with the mockery and the name calling, please at least have the courtesy of reading the papers, where all the technologies and the laboratories that performed the analysis on the solid obtained from mercury are listed extensively, and also all elements known or found to be part of the experimental setup and instruments were discarded as potential results of transmutation. The first and last papers are freely available online, the other Can be retrieved using a very known page, but I got a copy by asking for it to the researchers through ResearchGate.


The video is just a quick demonstrative exercise, nothing more, nothing less, and you are "cherry picking" it for making a mockery of this serious and interesting research.


There is also a recent exposition of the whole line of Research that was presented in a small event held in Asissi, Italy by GianLuca Cherubini, where he discusses the whole line of research since it's origins to the more current results. It's in Italian but it can be watched with auto subtitles.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IL4vvhjfk


stivep

RESPONSE#3

Purpose of this debate  is not to prove anyone wrong but to  take all possible sources to create in a mind of the reader  credible or  at least  clear picture of reality seen from science perspective:
One of opinions is that:
Whenever "some" Russians put their nose  into science we may expect
-corruption,
-lies,
-deformation
-and falsification of the official science.
-or just  pure form of unrestricted banditism if allowed.

-and  Fabio Cardone is taking  Russian  statements  for granted.

What the foolishness


example :
Russians 1 month ago  poisoned  Alelsey Navalnyi with forbidden Russian NOVICHIOK
the military  Nerve Agent :ethyl N-[(1E)-1-(diethylamino)ethylidene]-phosphoramidofluoridate
Official Russian Science  said that  there was no reason  to believe and no prove that such substance was used as they
didn't find anything   from that what was found by independent German, British, French  analysis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-234_(nerve_agent)
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny


________________________
So what about Italian cooperation with Russians and Italian revelations:
here is few facts( the rest  I'll add later.

From Wesley:
I must agree that  your opinion about subject matter Dr Roy is  quite convincing.
However Transmutation mentioned  in  Cardone paper is not stating a firm  piezonuclear  reaction  but is suggesting a possible one.

in this case we are not taking as an example Mercury but Thorium:

Quotequote :
We show that cavitation of a solution of thorium-228 in water induces its transformation at a rate 1
04 times faster than the natural radioactive decay would do. This result agrees with the alteration
of the secular equilibrium of thorium-234 obtained by a Russian team via explosion of titanium foils in water and solutions.
These evidences further support some preliminary clues for the possibility of
piezonuclear reactions (namely nuclear reactions induced by pressure waves) obtained in the last ten years.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222763261_Piezonuclear_decay_of_thorium
_________________________________
I also must agree that I didn't find yet  any other paper but Fabio Cardone in this area.
but I found  criticism of  Fabio Cardone revelations.
Wesley