free energy via electronic means

[SwinG]

Did you get all in all more energy out, than you did
put in by charging the battery from the grid in the first place ?

I don't really know. It's hard to calculate. When the battery was charging, the current wasn't stable, so it's a bit hard to tell how much energy I've put in.

@Walter Hofmann
Thank's to you too for sharing.
I don't know much about electronics, so I can't really figure out if your charging setup resembles mine. But as I understand it, you can't draw momre than the rated power from the inverter. This is very strange. Maybe it depends on the inverter design.

@pg46
Have you tried to "cross" the inverter and the charger on the poles? It seems like it's important for the system to work, and thats why you need more than one battery.


I have had my system running like Stefan suggested, with the charger on the grid, and the 100W bulb on the inverter, but system only ran for about 2 hours, before the low voltage alarm sounded. So nothing gained, only losses.
I don't think I'll get any further before I get hold of some more batteries.

[Grumpy]

Walter pointed out that crossing not required.

5 amp battery is too small  in that configuration.

Thanks to ring_theory, Walter, and the rest.

[pg46]

Thanks SwinG-

Think I will switch the inverter leads to opposite the poles that the charger is on and try that. I think that before I may have had them on the same poles as the charger.
Later on I may try using the grid power idea that you and Stefan mentioned.

Will report in later and thanks for tips.

[SwinG]

@Grumpy
I think you have misread the post from Walter:

What is also right the cross over part what wass strang to me also because I was the opinion that if I bridge the batterie poles it would be the same doesnt matter if you put the load and the charger on the same contact but it isnt.

As far as I can read, Walter says that it ISN'T gonna work if you don't cross the inverter input and charger output.

What I not sure about is how much the charger affects the setup. ring_theory says that the type of charger is of no importance:

You could use the old boat anchor of a charger and replace it later.

Are you sure about that, ring_theory ?


BTW, the grid charging method didn't seem to work for me.

[Grumpy]

Thanks.  Misread that.