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[SwinG]

Hey SwinG-

Glad you are getting better results now. Can you tell us what is the difference with your setup this time around from the first ones?
Are you still using just one battery?

Best,

It's the same setup, but I'm not putting so much load on it. Only a 14W flourocent bulb.

I had to disconnect the setup, so now I have stopped the test. But just for the fun of it, I now continue without the charger, to see how fast the voltage declines without the charger.

So far: 12:49 - 12.48V

I think that this system will improve greatly with some more cells added.

[pg46]

Very interesting SwinG

My 5 batteries altogether add up to only 25 amp (5 amp each). I had a 6 watt lamp for a load plus what it took to run the charger and the inverter. So perhaps my system was drawing too many amps for the battery capacity used. Think I was drawing about 72 watts.

Maybe I need bigger batteries or a smaller load?

Keep us posted of your progress

[SwinG]

I decided to stop the testing, and fully charge the battery again. To get a comparable starting point.

Does anybody have a link to a discharge curve for a lead acid battery system?

Update:
12:54 - 12.45V
13:02 - 12.44V
13:09 - 12.43V
13:16 - 12.43V
13:21 - 12.42V
13:31 - 12.42V
13:39 - 12.41V - testing stopped. Battery charging from socket.

As you can see, the voltage drops at more or less the same rate (a bit faster now, though). Only difference from this setup to the previous, are the loss in the charger, and the probably larger loss in the inverter at higher load.

Anybody has an idea of how much loss there is in a charger like the one I'm using? Is 10W to much or to little?

[SwinG]

@walter
Looking forward to some pictures.


So far, both ring_theory, wattsup and IronHead has been running more load than the inverter was rated for. What kind of inverter was used? Do all of your inverters have overload protection?
My inverter cuts off when the load gets over 300W, so the built in intelligence will prevent the overloading tests.

[stevewal2]

Hi,
Thanks for the setup ring_theory.

@ swinG:
nice too see you experimenting with this. To get comparible results for your test and controll you will need to start both at the same battery voltage. Also the room needs to be at the same temperature. Then we can get some better results. But looking at the results you have so far, there does seem to be some promise. Be interesting to see results with several batteries, as in ring_theorie's original expriment.

Good luck,

Steve.