free energy via electronic means

[SwinG]

@Stefan
Thank's for your help and suggestions. But for now, I am trying to do this with "off the shelf" products.
As I have mentioned previously, I don't think that this system is gonna change the world, but it could force current science to take a closer look. That's why I don't wanna try more specialized setups yet. Cause I don't thing science or media cares about one man, having some kind of wacky system, he claims is OU. But maybe 1000 people with their own working 1000W setup could make a headline or two.
If you could make a working system, without even having your soldering iron fired up, woulden't that be something?
This is not about me getting a free energy system (well, it is, but not primarily), or me making big bucks. It's about getting the "message" out to ordinary average people, that what they have been told at school is not all true.
But, I honestly think that there are far better, cheaper and easyer ways of extracting ZPE. I just don't know them, and average people most certainly don't.

I'm using a 14W bulb as load now, instead of the 100W bulb. When I get more batteries, I'll try with the 100W bulb again.


@Walter Hofmann
Thank's for details. Great.
If I understand you correctly, then you are letting the charger build up lost power over night. If that is correctly understood, then why the need for charging the batteries from the alternator every month or so?


Update:
Startet test. One 14W bulb on the inverter. No charger connected.
22:01 - 13.02V
22:11 - 13.00V
23:11 - 12.91V
23:43 - 12.87V
00:02 - 12.85V

Average of ~85mV/hour from ?fully charged battery. Thats about double the decline rate, than when the charger was plugged in. Though the voltage under this test was ~0.5V higher from start as when the charger was connected, I still see some kind of OU effect. Please remember, that when the charger is not connected, there is no power loss from it, and the inverter probably has more power loss, when the charger is connected too. So, the loss in the system is atlease 5-10W lesser, than with the charger connected.
I have stopped the test again, cause I don't need any more proof at the moment. This is enough for me to go further with this project. I'll buy some more batteries very soon.

I have reconnected the charger, without charging the battery form socket in the meantime, so if I see only ~40mV decline pr. hour again, I would call the experiment a success.
Anybody disagree? 

[SwinG]

Strange things happens here.

I have attached a sheet with some test results.
When I first connected the 14W bulb without the charger, the voltage decline was about 80mV/h. Then I tried for just ? an hour with just the charger, and no bulb. Then I powered on the bulb again, and saw voltage decline by ~65mV/h.
To make a control run, I then turned off the charger again, and ecpected to see around 80mV/h decline again. But no. Now the battery loaded with just the inverter and the 14W bulb declines with about 20mV/h.

To sum up:
Battery, inverter and bulb for two hours: ~80mV/h decline.
Battery, inverter and charger for ? hour: ~120mV/h decline.
Battery inverter, charger and 14W bulb for ~5 hours: ~65mV/h decline.
Battery inverter and bulb for ~3 hours: ~20mV/h decline.

If this continue, the bulb wil be lit for more than 100 hours without the charger, witch it shoulden't be able to.

I don't understand.

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi swing
sorry that I maybe confused you, I just mentioned the major appliance and did not mentione that I also have running for more then 8 hours daily my worklite and some small batterie charger for my battery tools. I did not watch after the initial phase for any connceted load. the 4 to 6 week recharge is from the practical expirience and not exactly somtimes I could run it even longer. Like I have explained in the beginning I am not in a competiton just needed practical and usable solution because I dont have much time or money to reasarch for the max on this.
the other part is in my area there are many power outage what can go on for days and this setup is usable even in a garage or lanai without watching for poisioness fums or refill of fuell.
greetings
walt

@Stefan
Thank's for your help and suggestions. But for now, I am trying to do this with "off the shelf" products.
As I have mentioned previously, I don't think that this system is gonna change the world, but it could force current science to take a closer look. That's why I don't wanna try more specialized setups yet. Cause I don't thing science or media cares about one man, having some kind of wacky system, he claims is OU. But maybe 1000 people with their own working 1000W setup could make a headline or two.
If you could make a working system, without even having your soldering iron fired up, woulden't that be something?
This is not about me getting a free energy system (well, it is, but not primarily), or me making big bucks. It's about getting the "message" out to ordinary average people, that what they have been told at school is not all true.
But, I honestly think that there are far better, cheaper and easyer ways of extracting ZPE. I just don't know them, and average people most certainly don't.

I'm using a 14W bulb as load now, instead of the 100W bulb. When I get more batteries, I'll try with the 100W bulb again.


@Walter Hofmann
Thank's for details. Great.
If I understand you correctly, then you are letting the charger build up lost power over night. If that is correctly understood, then why the need for charging the batteries from the alternator every month or so?


Update:
Startet test. One 14W bulb on the inverter. No charger connected.
22:01 - 13.02V
22:11 - 13.00V
23:11 - 12.91V
23:43 - 12.87V
00:02 - 12.85V

Average of ~85mV/hour from ?fully charged battery. Thats about double the decline rate, than when the charger was plugged in. Though the voltage under this test was ~0.5V higher from start as when the charger was connected, I still see some kind of OU effect. Please remember, that when the charger is not connected, there is no power loss from it, and the inverter probably has more power loss, when the charger is connected too. So, the loss in the system is atlease 5-10W lesser, than with the charger connected.
I have stopped the test again, cause I don't need any more proof at the moment. This is enough for me to go further with this project. I'll buy some more batteries very soon.

I have reconnected the charger, without charging the battery form socket in the meantime, so if I see only ~40mV decline pr. hour again, I would call the experiment a success.
Anybody disagree? 

[SwinG]

Hi swing
sorry that I maybe confused you, I just mentioned the major appliance and did not mentione that I also have running for more then 8 hours daily my worklite and some small batterie charger for my battery tools. I did not watch after the initial phase for any connceted load. the 4 to 6 week recharge is from the practical expirience and not exactly somtimes I could run it even longer. Like I have explained in the beginning I am not in a competiton just needed practical and usable solution because I dont have much time or money to reasarch for the max on this.
the other part is in my area there are many power outage what can go on for days and this setup is usable even in a garage or lanai without watching for poisioness fums or refill of fuell.
greetings
walt

No problemos, Walter.
If your system is still running, could you make a few voltage mesurements, while the system is running?

[ring_theory]

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