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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Grumpy

Do not assume that the bailing wire was used as a feromagnetic core.  Tesla stated in one of his lectures that iron wire had higher impedence, which he atributed to it's magnetic properties, and that this would make the circuit act as if it were of longer length than it really was.  So, with iron wire, you would not need as long of a piece.
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giantkiller

My GK3 operation is not acceptable. It draws 5 amps in an Otto jumper config. Same as trying the sequential control coil hookup to produce a rotational field. My final report is 20awg at 56 turns per segment is not correct for a 12v run. I need more windings. but not gonna go there. GK4 works great for what I wanted to achieve. Now I work towards the Bedini LGC for radiant pickup. I have a number of other coil loops in my inventory to connect. When you look at the latest pic I posted you can see the waves produced. If you fire that down a loop I believe you can achieve a rotation field. Albeit a singularity. But it is still there.
So now I am jumping into the radiant collection stage. This should prove interesting. I re-read the cold energy paper again for the 5th time. I don't think there is going to be any problem doing this. Again, I appreciate all the specs and help and nudges. In thankful return I post back what I found, what I see and what am going to do.
One note: If you can get your coils to sing then you got kicks and that is paramount to radiant energy. I am working with the Bedini LGC to see if the rotor can be replaced with a TPU then fold the TPU output back to the input. Won't that be something! Ottos jumpers showed that folding the coils back into themselves worked. That is what the GK4 did. Kicks are for geeks.

All of you are a great team to be with. Thank you.

--giantkiller.  9 days left, Tao. I truely believe in what you said.

mrl

Quote from: giantkiller on January 22, 2007, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: mrl on January 22, 2007, 09:30:29 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on January 22, 2007, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: mrl on January 22, 2007, 04:23:55 PM
Here's a radiant oscillator that's triggered using a neon bulb.  It should trigger at about 65 volts.  You could probably adjust the voltage upward by adding a resistor in series with it.  Also, for the transistor substitute - Q1.  The BD234C substitute should be one with reasonably high gain from what I can see.  You may need to put in a trim pot and a lower value resistor in series with it and adjust the bias.

Tnx. I see the TPU config in the schematic transformer. couldn't I fire the SCR with a BEMF spike? I think I can. I also am trying to remove the output batteries. The input could be used temp or take the output coupled back to the input and trigger the oscillation with a magnet swipe. I also see the ferrite being replaced with iron garden wire for programmable size. But at the moment not connected.

I am on a brain train right now. Should come out of the tunnel with less passengers. :D

--giantkiller. ;)

Yes you can fire the SCR with an (isolated) spike.  Also, remember, you cannot connect both system grounds together or the RE will be lost.  They must remain isolated.  That's why John put in the opto-coupler.  You must think of that system as being an open one way system not a closed one.

The core material in the FE osc is welding wire.  Cheap stuff.



And do we now know why SM used bailing wire? A cheap configurable transformer core. Have I been missing something? I seem to be catching on as of late.

I added a pic of the wave phases depicted at the instance of first potential. I think it is pretty clear .

--giantkiller.

No - No No...  Don't think of this system as having anything to do with magnetics.
Bedini uses the magnetic core to aid in the feedback pulse to the feedback coil.  The core material has nothing to do with the radiant pules.  The third winding is the equivalent to the collector coil in the TPU.  However, it important to note that all three windings are exposited to the RE but the RE gets lost in the first two (I think).  The third winding is isolated from all the rest of the system.  The RE remains in that coil.





giantkiller

Quote from: mrl on January 22, 2007, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on January 22, 2007, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: mrl on January 22, 2007, 09:30:29 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on January 22, 2007, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: mrl on January 22, 2007, 04:23:55 PM
Here's a radiant oscillator that's triggered using a neon bulb.  It should trigger at about 65 volts.  You could probably adjust the voltage upward by adding a resistor in series with it.  Also, for the transistor substitute - Q1.  The BD234C substitute should be one with reasonably high gain from what I can see.  You may need to put in a trim pot and a lower value resistor in series with it and adjust the bias.

Tnx. I see the TPU config in the schematic transformer. couldn't I fire the SCR with a BEMF spike? I think I can. I also am trying to remove the output batteries. The input could be used temp or take the output coupled back to the input and trigger the oscillation with a magnet swipe. I also see the ferrite being replaced with iron garden wire for programmable size. But at the moment not connected.

I am on a brain train right now. Should come out of the tunnel with less passengers. :D

--giantkiller. ;)

Yes you can fire the SCR with an (isolated) spike.  Also, remember, you cannot connect both system grounds together or the RE will be lost.  They must remain isolated.  That's why John put in the opto-coupler.  You must think of that system as being an open one way system not a closed one.

The core material in the FE osc is welding wire.  Cheap stuff.



And do we now know why SM used bailing wire? A cheap configurable transformer core. Have I been missing something? I seem to be catching on as of late.

I added a pic of the wave phases depicted at the instance of first potential. I think it is pretty clear .

--giantkiller.

No - No No...  Don't think of this system as having anything to do with magnetics.
Bedini uses the magnetic core to aid in the feedback pulse to the feedback coil.  The core material has nothing to do with the radiant pules.  The third winding is the equivalent to the collector coil in the TPU.  However, it important to note that all three windings are exposited to the RE but the RE gets lost in the first two (I think).  The third winding is isolated from all the rest of the system.  The RE remains in that coil.

Oh, I wasn't thinking magnetic at all. In some of my trials I saw that as an answer for other configurations. I am always looking for cheap or slick answers to problems.
Thanks. Didn't mean to mislead.

--giantkiller.

mrl

Here's an idea I've been toying with.

It's a very small version of the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter.

I think this stands a good chance of pumping out RE.

I don't think we need to hit the thing with kilovolts to get it to put out RE.  It's all in the pulse duration and rise / fall time.  The inside cone winding is the collector coil.

See Attached.