Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

Every point of view has a right to life. But the interlocutor is right. I agree that often any process in physics is very simple and to at least begin to explain it - we need to start with primitives and some models in the form of electrons and balls, holes. But an electron is not a ball or a hole) But how to start explaining something?

But if we continue our discussion, above in the picture the little man is squeezing a spring. The question is, does the little man do work?
Many newbies will immediately answer - no, the little man is frozen, so it does not perform work, just like the support. And I began to have a lot of difficulties with academics.

In fact, I once came across an article, a scientific article, which explains the whole problem. Just as an electrical circuit does work when the needle of a galvanometer or ammeter is frozen. Just as a car, after acceleration, does work to overcome the forces of friction to keep the car moving. In fact, after acceleration - the car is moving due to the forces of inertia, and spending fuel and making work to overcome the friction forces, which makes the counteraction of motion.

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and the generator works by overcoming attraction force of magnetic dipoles while the output origin is in magnetic field not input mechanical force

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

I will try to finish my thought, because I deliberately confuse the reader. so that he will find contradictions while reading and thus, I have the feeling that the reader himself is closely following the topic.

Now let's take a spring and place it between two solenoids. after the dynamic process of wave motion has subsided and the solenoids begin to press each on the spring

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

I also wanted to say that if we ask the first person what resists in the generator from the first observer, he can say. what is sporotivlyasya in the generator rotor. The second can answer that the magnetic field or the Lorentz force, it is Ampere. And so because he sees how someone closes the electrical circuit on the load. The third option is support. and the fourth is that between the intermediate medium in the form of a magnetic field in vacuum there is resistance to themselves)))

Here we can observe such a picture that it is subjective perception that affects the conclusions that the observer himself came to.
Therefore, it depends on who and how considers the situation, what decisions a person will make in order to improve the design itself.

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

That's exactly why I made the setting to show that we can have a Joule setting. could be a better setup. The stankan, in which there was water, now does not rest on a support, but is a flywheel. Instead of water, there is a magnetic field, which from the point of view of elasticity is an ideal medium, since there are no losses due to such inelastic collisions or deformation during collisions through a magnetic field. The conclusions that can be reached will turn out to be quite different from those to which Joule or Helmholtz gravitated.

But, unlike the strange classics with its conclusions. where they say. that in the generator we use energy to create electricity - this is very outdated from my point of view. as an individual concept.
she had the right to life. But the man himself. whichever. how this process is viewed. may view it differently. In fact, the stator resists the rotor, which is fixed to the support, and this support is the resultant force that does not allow the stator to accelerate. how to get moving. therefore, the generation of electrical energy can be considered as in the case of a clamped spring with additional energy. which took place in Newtonian mechanics, where the magnetic field was an intermediary between bodies resisting each other.