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Reactive Current - Parallel RCL

Started by nix85, June 01, 2021, 08:43:14 AM

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pix


@Stivep
Amplification of voltage in series resonant tank, stepped down to increase current.
RU2517378C1 - Resonance power amplifier - Google Patents

Quote:
Having high voltage transformers powered by impulses you may have light from light bulbs manifesting[/size]increased level of luminosity at half power used, due to slow time of tungsten cooling.And if impulses will be delivered frequently faster than human eyes perception,–we may think we got an amplification, and investors might foolishly invest money.

Tesla transformer is electromagnetic energy trap, it collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank. That collected energy is fired off the top terminal through HV step down transformer.

Cheers,
Pix

stivep

Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
@Stivep
Tesla transformer is electromagnetic energy trap, it collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank. That collected energy is fired off the top terminal through HV step down transformer.

Tesla transformer is not an electromagnetic energy trap,
Tesla transformer is  a high-frequency high-voltage resonant transformer,
having it's resonant frequency at specified boundaries called  bandwidth.

It
may act as a transmitter or receiver but never as both.

word
"bandwidth" here means:a range of frequencies of the filter
at resonance used for transmitting a signal.
were word "filter" stands for for circuit in resonance: example – transformer in resonance.
word "resonant" here means: resonant frequency that is the frequency at which resonance happens.

picture it  as a corridor having certain width ( bandwidth. )  where all doors are open,
and only e.g six people (frequencies) next to each other can pass .

interpretation:
in your quote from above I see nonessential inconsistency.
secondary winding of Tesla coil dumps oscillations and those left overs are then delivered to the spark gap
having more losses.
And all of it is powered from the electrical grid.

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Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank.


The reduction in amplitude (or energy) of an oscillator is called damping and the oscillation are said to be damped.
in other words we talk about losses, – not about gains
for example if your girlfriend dumps you, it's your loss(however sometime you may gain in the long run )
so collecting losses in primary resonant tank is not a gain, but is collecting leftovers.


those who are amazed with something that is greater than unity may read this:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4050644?arnumber=4050644
https://www.oldfriend.url.tw/article/IEEE_paper
/Synthesis%20of%20Passive%20RC%20Networks%20with%20Gains.pdf

I didn't analyze the patent yet,
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/en
backed by prestigious Russian educational facility
Всероссийский научно-исследовательский институт электрификации сельского хозяйства Российской академии сельскохозяйственных наук (ГНУ ВИЭСХ Россельхозакадемии)
Application filed by
Dmitry Semenovich Strebkov, Rudolf Klavdievich Katorgin,
State Scientific Institution All-Russian Research Institute of Electrification of Agriculture
of the Russian Academy of Agricultural Sciences (GNU VIESKh rosselkhozakademiya)

but it is very interesting dynamic system, were gain depends from the load.

however knowing Russian reality of crooks, and corruption everything is possible including
patents standing about "overunity"

Wesley.

truesearch


@kolbacict

Quote from: kolbacict on July 03, 2022, 11:37:10 AM
Does this concept of a wind turbine without moving parts have the right to life?



Is there an English version of the "Power.pdf" file that you posted?

kolbacict

I don't know. Maybe not.
you translate with a translator.
There, in general, we are talking about the fact that the wind does
work by moving ionized air against the Coulomb forces.
By adding energy (voltage)
There is one drawback, it will not work in the rain.

pix

Quote from: stivep on July 06, 2022, 09:29:31 PM
Tesla transformer is not an electromagnetic energy trap,
Tesla transformer is  a high-frequency high-voltage resonant transformer,
having it's resonant frequency at specified boundaries called  bandwidth.

The reduction in amplitude (or energy) of an oscillator is called damping and the oscillation are said to be damped.
in other words we talk about losses, – not about gains
for example if your girlfriend dumps you, it's your loss(however sometime you may gain in the long run )
so collecting losses in primary resonant tank is not a gain, but is collecting leftovers.



Wesley.


I do not agree.
Tesla secondary is quarter wave helical transmission line where energy from primary LC tank is ACCUMULATED.
So, my description of "primary LC tank oscillations damping" means that those oscillations are damped INTO Tesla secondary.
We do not loose those oscillations from primary, they do not damps for nothing, they damps into COLLECTOR- Tesla secondary.
That's why I named Tesla secondary as "energy trap".
Tesla himself said that we should thank God that we have oscillations. And we can do something with it.
"Oscillations" are the property of Nature( LC tank in that example) and we can do something with them. We charge capacitor ONCE and let that charge oscillate between L and C many times before it dies out. And we can collect some of that oscillating energy.


I went through few Strebkov patents. For sure he is not a dumb man. Many of his patents are closely related to Tesla.
Stepanov, Strebkov method is straightforward. Raise voltage by series resonant LC tank ( the higher Q of the circuit the better)- and step that voltage down with step down transformer, to get useable current. Process can be cascaded to get more useable current.
Another very interesting work is done by Xiaodong Liu and his work in the area of "retarded resonance".
This guy is not a dumb one , Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy.
Publication is attached below.


The door to collect some energy into useable form lies in resonance. This is my opinion.
Enough of disputes.
Once I test it I will post the results.


Cheers,
Pix