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Everyone will say this craft breaks the laws of physics

Started by TommeyLReed, July 02, 2021, 05:29:54 AM

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Paul-R

It's about energy. There is a great deal of energy in the wind swept by a 6 foot dia wind turbine and very little energy needed to propel the vehicle.
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4146.msg92693#msg92693

lancaIV

Biomimikry and Bionics :


                                         proportio habens medium et duo extrema

                                                golden section(rule) / golden extension

http://www.math.uni-bremen.de/didaktik/ma/ralbers/Veranstaltungen/MaDenken1314/Material/1_2_Skript_GoSchni.pdf




Shape


Fibonacci


Pascal


Betz


Pi


Circle,Globe


Pareto Optimum
 



https://www.treehugger.com/the-lily-impeller-nature-based-design-inspires-game-changing-efficiencies-4863361


"What if we could reverse engineer a whirlpool, I thought, what if we could get the correct geometries? But no one could do that at the time. Because a vortex like that is constantly moving around, it becomes incredibly complicated to pin down. It took me twenty years to figure out how to freeze a whirlpool/ But when I did, it allowed us to see that all movement of fluids can be described with one algorithm with four variables."

             This algorithm compared with the EE Biot-Savart law ? ( also called Ampére law or Laplace law)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1



[0013]

This consists in the fact that an electromagnetic field around an arbitrarily bent wire-shaped conductor and a flow field around an arbitrarily shaped vortex thread are described by the same law, Biot-Savart's law.

The quantities "increase in magnetic field strength" and "increase in speed" therefore correspond to one another.

Since magnetic field strength can be concentrated by winding a current-carrying conductor into a coil, an increase in speed can also be achieved in fluid technology by winding a vortex thread into a coil.

If you arrange several whibs rotating in the same direction so that their axes lie on a circle, they will rotate around the center of the circle as a result of mutual induction.  ( artificial TORNADO)

The induction increases with the number of vortices. The winding speed increases and the wedged threads approach the shape of closely spaced ring vortices. The velocity field that these ring vortices induce inside them creates the desired concentration effect.





https://paxscientific.com/ the Lily impeller and their fan blade design and applied efficiency improvements

                                                                     https://paxscientific.com/fansblowers


                                                                       PAX's understanding of natural vortices and high-quality engineering allows Flair to use up                                                                                                              to 85 percent less electricity than conventional portable fans.

https://www.treehugger.com/what-is-wind-energy-5097217
https://www.treehugger.com/ingenious-wind-turbine-designs-4869193

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-vTc7SwU0  A 100kW wind generator in only 7sqm?

https://www.treehugger.com/inflatable-turbine-set-break-world-record-highest-wind-turbine-4854002


https://www.treehugger.com/will-windcatchers-revolutionize-offshore-wind-energy-sector-5189044
https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/33550.html

but if 9 m/c wind the said Vestas ( V90 3.0 MW ) provides 1000 kW only, while my turbine assembly provides 2000 kW, being about US$ 500,000.00 only, while the said Vestas is an order of magnitude expensive.

Vestas V90 3M performance : Attention "wind speed dependence "!
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Energy-and-financial-estimation-of-3-MW-Vestas-V90-wind-turbine-versions_tbl7_259169211
https://www.nhsec.nh.gov/projects/2008-04/documents/app_appendix_7.pdf









to Allcanadian https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4146.msg92693#msg92693  his fan/generator experiment :


in chamber/tube (partial Betz limit neutralisation )


https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318
2. The High Velocity Electric Fan (Blowing directly on the PMA Blades from a distance of only 8 inches)


The "wind" created by the High Velocity Fan blowing on the blades of the 750 Watt PMA cause the generation of 660 Watts of electricity to be produced each hour while the high velocity fan is consuming only 120 watts per hour. Those numbers mean that in 24 hours the Fanerator will produce about 15,840 watts, or 15.8 kilowatts.


with bionik PAX fan blade !? ,   generator double winding !? ,   fan motor double winding !?
                                                                                   
                                                                                 or: fan e-motor  https://qmpower.com/
                                                                               
                                                                                 or: fan e-motor https://keppemotorshop.com/home/


                                          PAX "FLAIR" blade and qmpower or Keppe electric motor ?!
                                         
                                          Compressor Lily impeller and compressor-motor ?!


                                          https://web.archive.org/web/20131208135809/http://solterrah.com/mech-clean-energy.php



https://overunity.com/2238/cheap-wind-farming/5/wap2/ generator modification :


Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts.
 
After converting the generator to combined windings, the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts.

At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts!

When 5-6 m/sec.  modified gives 140 W, 10-12 m/sec. gives 320 W,how much generates 20m/sec. wind as output ?


10 times the unmodified generator output : 70 W to 700 Watts ?


The Fanerator PMA 750 W modification by 10-12 m/sec ? average 40 Km*h !?





https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2                "                                  "                                             "

To make this invention independent of wind power, it is worthwhile to generate artificial airflow, since the convergent nozzle is able to increase the airflow kinetic energy by converting the air internal energy into kinetic energy. It was shown that the amount of internal energy converted to kinetic energy was: 221.9 /-21.737 =104.2 times the natural (wind) kinetic energy.

Assuming a fan driven by electrical motor 528 having a nominal power of X Kilo- Watt. Further, assuming that the fan transfers 50% of the electrical power into kinetic energy and that the nozzle is only 80% isentropic due to turbulence and separation. Thus the steady state flow enters the inlet 510, has only about 30% X of Hie electrical energy invested by the electrical motor 528. However, in the throat, the kinetic energy could be increased 100 times (assuming throat area 1/10 of the inlet 510 area, thanks to the convergent nozzle action we get kinetic energy in the throat, which is 30 X, i.e. 30 times more than the energy invested.

If turbine 502 is 50% efficient, it provides 15X power and the net profit is 14X power. Thus we get an independent energy machine that generates more energy that it consumes all on the expense of air internal source of internal energy.

Thus in arid areas where water is in demand this embodiment could provide high quality water and electrical power.

The implementation of powered fan in the inlet could be used as home power station, public power stations that provide electrical power to the electrical grid and automobile engines. As for public power stations, since they already have steam facilities, the steam power could be used to drive the powered fan while the electrical generator provides electrical power to the grid.


For example, a private home device could use a small 50CM fan diameter while the larger fan diameter is about 1 meters to provide about 7 kilowatt electrical power.



https://alcse.org/the-american-wind-powered-car/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcQFRXriVDc

Using the wind to power a car – Yost has plans to use four of his small turbines on top of his hybrid car, increasing the power to the battery and decreasing the time between needed gas refueling or electric charges. Later in the fall he expects to begin a cross-country tour with his car, but before then he may break the World Record for the longest drive without needing to stop for fuel or recharge.


Comparison : Power,Energy,Force as work effect : medium,fluidum air and water


https://contest.techbriefs.com/2010/entries/sustainable-technologies/527


the AirWatt power plant can usually run 24 hours per day in appropriate locations. AirWatt plants use atmospheric air as the heat source and evaporating water as the heat sink.


The average amount of water flowing through the turbines at Hoover Dam is about 500 cubic meters per second as it produces 550 MW of power.
If only one-tenth that much water were pumped out of Lake Mead to an AirWatt Power plant out in the desert, it could produce 6,300 MW (6.3 GW) of power. That is over a thousand ( I mean to calculate over 100 times !) times as much power per gallon of water as the power output of Hoover Dam.

6300/550 output  x 500/50 water flow = 114,5
https://www.ksl.com/article/40762388/utah-inventions-prueitts-computer-graphics-desalination-tank
This process creates sustainable energy—and more sustainably than solar power plants (which can only work when the sun is out) and convection towers (which need four times more water per megawatt, and energy is required to pump the water to the top.)
Unfortunately, no investors were willing to construct the prototype for the AirWatt. :-X 

By the 2010 contest : " .....  The calculated cost of electricity from an AirWatt plant is 3 cents per kWh. ..."

https://issuu.com/energyblitz/docs/issue_1 page 20-21    1,3 US$cents/KWh  8)  optimized ?
Here we read also 100 times (not 1000 x )as much power per gallon compared and 100 times less land use !

From Odessa/Ucraina : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukXtWSLnh8   video  3:51+

From Old England : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYuyhIsuLw



It is fine to have great sustainable development pioneers and their effective research result/-s like Buckminster Fuller :

https://www.gwern.net/fog-gun
The amount of water needed by the fog gun  is less than a pint per day per family.

                                                        fog gun= aerator watering

Let us assume 1 US pint ( not GB pint)  https://www.metric-conversions.org/volume/us-liquid-pints-to-liters.htm =
                                 A US capacity measure (for liquid) equal to 0.473 liters

https://repository.kaust.edu.sa/bitstream/handle/10754/628710/acs.est.8b02852.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
cost of making such a device to supply minimum daily water consumption for an adult (i.e., 3 kg)  is only $3.2 (USD).

This type of atmospheric water generator (AWG) is cheap and affordable, 26 perfectly works with a broad range of humidity, does not need any electricity, and thus is suitable 27 especially for clean water production in remote areas.


Effective device "life-time" ?



https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+fog+gun&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=youtube+fog+gun&aqs=chrome..69i57.6210j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


https://boingboing.net/2019/11/14/sustainable-luxury.html
NASA developed a mist shower with a hand-held, movable nozzle that incorporated an on-off thumb controlled water valve attached to a flexible hose. The average water use for a nine-minute shower was measured to be 2.2 litres, which corresponds to a water flow of only 0.24 litres per minute. [6] The Canadian Minimum Housing Group developed and tested several mist showers and obtained a flow rate of 0.33 liters of water per minute. [7]. In both cases, swab tests of bacteria on the skin showed that mist showers clean the body just as well as a "normal" shower of the same duration – using 30 to 40 times less water.
Jonas Görgen, a young designer who graduated from the Design Academy Eindhoven in 2019, became fascinated by the history of the mist shower and decided to build one himself. Compared to earlier mist showers, Görgen has improved the concept in two important ways. First, he developed a kit that can turn almost any shower into a mist shower with very little effort. Second, in contrast to earlier experiments, his mist shower uses not one but three to six nozzles. This turns a functional but very basic mist shower (using only one nozzle), into a pleasant experience that feels just as comfortable and invigorating as a "normal" shower.


https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2019/10/mist-showers-sustainable-decadence.html


The energy use of a mist shower could be further reduced by showering in an enclosed cabin, which increases thermal comfort with lower water temperatures. Another trick to increase thermal comfort in winter is to open the nozzles a bit so that the surface area of the water decreases. This increases water use but decreases heat loss. It is down to the individual to find balance between saving energy or water, based on local circumstances.

An argument that is often made against water saving shower heads is that people compensate lower water flows by taking longer showers. A similar argument could be made against mist showers, because the use of mist increases the time needed to rinse the body of soapy water.


However, a mist shower of 8.9 minutes offers plenty of time to get rid of soap and shampoo. The test subjects in the NASA experiments all managed to wash and rinse within 9 minutes, using only one nozzle on a flexible hose. Washing long hair is more problematic, but also in this case the problem can be addressed by opening the nozzles a bit more, increasing the water flow.


with "shower-loop" ( white/grey water closed cycle) ?!
https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+shower+loop&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=youtube+shower+loop&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.8345j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

onepower

Paul
QuoteIt's about energy. There is a great deal of energy in the wind swept by a 6 foot dia wind turbine and very little energy needed to propel the vehicle.
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4146.msg92693#msg92693

In my opinion, the strangest thing about this technology was not the concept but the fact that 99% of people couldn't understand it. I mean it's just a propeller pushing against the wind driven by some wheels but almost everyone got the concept wrong... that's mind boggling.

Not to mention the fact that a physicist who is supposedly an expert lost $10,000 to Vertasium because he was wrong. It goes to show that most people including the supposed experts have perception problems with respect to relative motion and energy. Personally, I found peoples reaction to the technology much more interesting than the technology itself.

As well, the Veritasium video's never did explain the concept to my satisfaction nor any other literature. I will break the problem down...
1)The ground speed of the craft drives the wheels.
2)The wheels turn the propeller which pushes air backwards against the wind.
3)The propeller air moving backwards against the wind brakes the wind speed to zero converting it's velocity/momentum to pressure.
4)The pressure zone is the force acting on the propeller driving the craft forward not the wind velocity.
5)The craft can exceed the down wind speed because the propeller is acting against a pressure zone moving with the craft
at whatever speed the craft is moving.

What throws everyone off is Energy and relative motion because we have multiple motional elements acting simultaneously.
1-Wind>>>(2-Pressure)<<<3-Prop>>>4-Craft
Therefore we have thing 3 acting on thing 1 which produces thing 2 which acts on thing 3 thus 4 causing it to move faster producing more thing 3 acting on thing 1. All are variable, relative and in motion...                             

So we have a circular energy feedback loop to consider...
The craft forward velocity drives the prop, the prop air acts against the wind creating a pressure zone, the moving pressure zone drives the craft forward... repeat.

There must be an energy balance whereby the increasing groundspeed increases prop speed enough to brake the wind and
generate enough pressure to overcome drag.  So this isn't perpetual motion or OU... it's just science.

Regards
AC










sm0ky2

Although the 'blackbird' is claimed by it's modern (re-)inventor::


This device was described by both Archemedes and Da Vinci.
It functions perfectly when the leveraged torque (gear ratios) are in the proper proportions.


Our modern understanding of wind / wind speed (the simplified equation) only takes into account a surface with a low
aerodynamic coefficient. Meaning one which it's movement (upwind) is greatly restricted by the
force of the wind.


When a propeller is designed to have a lot of pushing power, and the craft is highly aerodynamic:
The pushing force becomes more prevalent than the resisting wind.
This is emphasized by the gear ratio at the drive wheels.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.