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The MAD MAX e-car

Started by lancaIV, July 23, 2021, 06:56:42 AM

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lancaIV

By way of example, an automobile engine of current design, operated at its most efficient speed, is expected to have an efficiency of 20 to 25 percent.


Nevertheless, the average efficiency of the ordinary motor car is much less,being only on the order 2-5 percent, primarily because of poor compression ratios at low speed operation.

The problem is how to avoid inefficiencies which are incident to the operating cycle rather than to the basic engine construction.




                                               real  2-5% energy  efficiency from peak " apparent power" 20-25% effficiency




                               Forschungsfeldvergleich : engine or machine


                                                                     Der Mensch or the Human


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung : Mariendorf "Die Maschine Mensch" experiment ,living with/out target -motive : Motivation

https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/3240.html?id=5463


                                             motorische/notorische Effizienz der Mensch-Maschine.individual or cooperative

                                                             the 90´ work(er)-reengineering change :

The problem is how to avoid inefficiencies which are incident to the operating cycle rather than to the basic human construction.


the Human "worker" society :

non motivated real  2-5% energy/performance  efficiency from nominal and average   " apparent power" 20-25% effficiency (physio-biological )





https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.wort.lu/de/business/der-traum-von-der-mensch-maschine-5f609376de135b9236900af7


                                                   2062 pari ? Functional soon 2021 pari ,the "humanoids" !


                                                   " virtual human"-chip implants ,not human-body look robots






                                                Is applied EE-technology for traffic better than applied IC  ?


                                                                       Or when/how is EE better ?






                                                         fix revolutions electric motor   + ( when AC : inverter) battery


                                                  variable revolutions electric motor  +                  "    "    " 




                                                                          nominal current,inrush phase current


                                                       




                                                               


                                            primarily because of poor compression ratios at low speed operation.




                                                         traffic average low speed ,average and specific rush-hour



                                                                 
                                                         the nominal motor-generator/alternator performance


                                                         by rated 1000 RPM ,technical efficiency over 90%


                                                         by low speed RPM ,technical efficiency over 90%


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121011&CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780418&CC=US&NR=4085355A&KC=A




  by 1000 W rated                                                    1000 RPM    delivers    1000 W power


  by 1000 W rated                                                      100 RPM    delivers         1 W power




                                                                                      EE and FUZZY NEURO-LOGIK ;D

      From 100% potential                  input  10 Per Centum/Prozent   =     1 Per Milia/Promille output  ratio


                                                                      2 lever applied in 1 comparison

                                                                     non-linear,dynamical performance


                                                     

                   
                             

lancaIV

Quote from: Jerry Volland on July 25, 2021, 10:08:36 AM
No, I'm not Chinese.  But eugenics just isn't right, no matter what the nationality.


And aren't you the same one who said a 1kWh battery, charged and discharged 25,000 times gives 25,000 kWh, for driving a million miles?  How do you charge it while driving?


"Under Natural Law, stupidity is a capital offence" - Robert Heinlein.


What if someone decided to abort unwished stupidity?




                     related " .... a 1kWh battery, charged and discharged 25,000 times gives 25,000 kWh, for driving a million miles ..."




https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a35367888/the-eternal-promise-of-solid-state-batteries/


QuantumScape, a California-based 2010 spinoff from Stanford University that has a joint venture with Volkswagen Group (which invested more than $300 million), said in January that it is indeed making great strides toward commercializing the cells. The company said it had created fire-resistant test batteries that continue to function after 1,100 cycles, retaining at least 80% of its capacity. "This corresponds to over 300,000 miles for a 300-mile battery pack and over 500,000 miles for a 500-mile battery pack," the company said in a tweet.



300 miles range x 1100 cycles = over 300 000 miles capacity -limit 80% capacity- servicelife


500 miles  range x 1100 cycles = over 500 000 miles capacity -limit 80% capacity - servicelife


                                                                              ergo


300 miles range x 25 000 cycles   LTO battery Yinlong =   7 500 000 miles servicelife
300 miles range x 40 000 cycles   LTO battery XALT    = 12 000 000 miles servicelife


300 miles range x 250 000 cycles AIB battery                 = 75 000 000 miles servicelife


                                                                                 dividing < 10 000 miles/per year average car use in Europe


                                                                                7 500 000 / 10 000      = 750 years use


                                                                               12 000 000/  10 000     = 1200 years use


                                                                               and as non plus ultra :


                                                                               75 000 000/   10 000   = 7500 years use

                                                                             
                                                                               human life in years,average : 80 years   car life in years,average : 15 years


                                                                              Some could mean that this represents longitivity enough  ::)  ( ;D )






                                                                             In Europe : 15 years car life       x 10 000 miles = 150 000 miles capacity range


                                                                                               80 years human life x 10 000 miles = 800 000 miles capacity range




                                                                            1x  800 000 miles battery pack serves for 5-6  car generations


                                               
                                                                            by 300 miles range pack = 2500-3000 effective 100% DoD charge cycles




       
                                                                           by this charge concept http://www.bticcs.com/ or similar "algorythmic charge concepts"


                                                                           ( Oldie but Goldie Reply #19 shown charge alternatives )
                                                                     
                                                                           " Articles and Publication "


                       CCS a New Technology for the Automatic Charge Controle of Rechargeable Batteries

                       CCS ein neues Ladeverfahren zum automatischen Laden von Akkus
                                                       

                       citation :



                                                                                                         
                       3. Cost & Energy Impact:


• For NC batteries, per example, manufacturers are quoting 500 to 1,000 charge cycles.


In real life most of these batteries have just a life of 100 cycles and often fail in much shorter time.


As CCS is proving, much of it is the inadequate charging process, that cuts a battery life short.


                                                 With CCS a battery life of 5000 charge cycles can be reached.




                                                                         
Taking this information with precaution ( peak/maximal and average performance !) and as comparison benchmark for own experiments and experience ! 

And by other battery kind as given NC example !













1 KWh battery capacity as solely car energy storage and 1 000 000 miles capacity servicelife


depends


a. vehicle weight , average speed


                                                             nonstop delivery and use


b. the Tanaka Saburo inverter system effect or Dr. Pavel Imris,CSc.  double battery/cap-generator charge system

lancaIV

battery range would be more important than charging cycles : das Eine bedingt das Andere  ;)


Satellites : equipped mostly with nuclear batteries






btw I forgot to listen :


300 miles range x 1 000 000 charge cycles Kilowattlabs superbattery  ::)








12 KWh Reva NGX 37 KW AC motor concept car consume per 100 Km,less 3 KWh brake energy recuperation






                             physical ,by concept, AC e-drive C.O.P. < 1              to           C.O.P. 10 e-drive change ( earth use )




1,2 KWh modified Reva NGX pulsed DC motor concept car consume per 100 km,
                                         here without modification improvement :
                                           less 3 KWh brake energy recuperation :


                                                              surplus 1,8 KWh per 100 Km

                                          with brake energy system improvement : recuperation gain to 6 KWh + per 100 Km



                                                            surplus 5 KWh and more





Physically and experimental we are some steps beyond the market


Probably in Future concept cars technical up-to-date refurbish : https://www.rinspeed.com/de/Concept-Cars  8)  https://www.rinspeed.com/en/

                                                                                            https://esoro.ch/konzeptfahrzeuge/                    https://esoro.ch/en/concept-vehicles/
                               



wmbr


OCWL
                             


p.s.:


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=andreja+todorovic&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15379

lancaIV

I am in search : for the perfection !  ;)  easy to produce,ecological,economical ; if possible soft-ware-free or free-/share-ware use


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=89&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140320&CC=US&NR=2014078802A1&KC=A1


Tanaka Saburos concept uses an inverter

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A



but this idea/application also :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=102&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090326&CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1


to Garfield Wood his 1969 superelectric car the more modern pendant :


https://esoro.ch/en/portfolio-item/exasis-ein-hauch-von-auto-2007/


but  for calculation we use GarWoods 2x 1,5 hp 90V DC motor concept = 3 hp =  2,25 KW rated power


the installation :


not motor belt wheel


but motor to transmission https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840807&CC=US&NR=4464095A&KC=A to belt to wheel


the motor physical torque/rev. transformed/transduced by


Halbach/Ronbach magnet array Sankar Pat


or here https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=chad+vandenberg&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

-50% Vandenberg,-70% Ogino basic factor power/energy savings -  related conventional electric motor - ever wellcomed !




Assumption : 2250 Wh for 50 Km ( or near 30 miles range)         1969 car performance



                = 4500 Wh/100 Km


                 


                   2250 Wh/100 Km reduced by Iida cw rev./ccw rev. motor (instead blades) transmission configuration,conventional electric motor


                   1125 Wh/100 Km  reduced by above motor power saving modification


                   as average




the brake energy recuperation gain,not as high Reva NGX their number to expect( car mass difference) will compensate a great electric motors energy consume part


The effect from the

Self-Charging Generator  US2009079393


the claim/statement " .... [0008] My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts."


has to become tested !


Each experimental measured/tested number  over C.O.P. 1 will be wellcomed !




But if only C.O.P.1 ,it does not bother,the e-car need an energy storage ! ::) 




Irgendwann mal /someday in future  : C.O.P. 10 cap-motor + a. Ozkan cycle  b. Saburo cycle c. Imris double battery cap-generator cycle






lancaIV

At first : this is actually an unimportant solution research/answer finding question !


The most important fact is that urban/city zone vehicles by given 30 Km/h speed maximum only needs ,included brake energy recuperation, well organized 250 Wh electric energy storage for driving the average 60 Km activity per day as also remarked by the "concept cars" design page by esoro/rinspeed !


( 15 000 Km per year european range average /365 = ?  per day )


Pulse, 2 = Hz


how is the EMP nuclear defined ?


how explains it ,EMP I and II ,Dr.Pavel Imris,CSc. in his "artificial nuclear atom strike"   
                   


Pulse-effect ?


Bernd Koehler ,solar cell/ fluorescent lamp tube as battery charge concept


DeBuyant.rotative DC  motor-generator battery charge concept


Harold Goldbaum electric generator with shoe-box dimension but Pulse quantity dependent work process KW or MW output


Have we to determinate the nuclear decay in concepts like NANO-BOXX in Pulse numbers ?






The energy storage is not anymore the problem in an "autonomous and intelligent -fixed speed max.- urban traffic drive " world !



Well organized e-trikes and e-bikes less than function priority related heavy cars !




World-wide shows us "freaks,developper,enthusiasts" over youtube and other video channels what with conventional equipment is possible,what with
the best known solution will become possible ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU    rated 750 W power  electric drive ,by 30 Km/h max. energy consume in average ?

                                                                             after specific drive improvement ?




Ex-SIEMENS Dr.Wolfgang Volkrodt publication :        rated 100 W bike to electric bike modification


                                                                           with modern 2021 equipment rated power/effective energy consume per 100 Km/per day ?






                    Does he not correct EE geral opinions in this paper ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3501076&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


Beginning with that difference :




According to theories customary up to now, 25 kW losses would have to occur in the aforementioned ferrite magnetic core. This contradicts practical experience.
[0004]

The energy requirement for a magnetizing reversal pulse is around 25 mWs when using a magnetizing coil with low resistance as a single-start secondary winding of a pulse magnetizing transformer. 10,000 pulses per second therefore require a power supply of 0.25 kW,


                                             


   i.e. one hundredth of the hysteresis losses that are allegedly caused by this.









How many scientists/researcher/inventors are citing these points in their disclosure :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19860717&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP



Sincere


OCWL