RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.

[captainpecan]

@ floor,
Thanks for the calculations. I do see where there could be a small variation that could cause the results to be less than 1+1=3 but still good. I did not have a great way to measure the gaps when I did that test. So there is a possibility of a slight difference in gap between top magnet gap and bottom magnet gap. I finally got my brass feeler guage in today. As well as my new scales that will measure more force. So I will line things up with smaller and exactly same gap top and bottom and run the test again. Because it felt like my 2nd test was way stronger but I maxed my scale out so I couldn't tell for sure. But I think another test to make positive all measurements are correct before I move to a total electromagnet design is warranted. I've got some other thoughts to try as well that I haven't seen anyone try and I'll get the next pieces in Tue to try that as well. I'll keep posted.

[captainpecan]

Here is my final video on brads motor with the torque plates. The electromagnets are the key.
https://youtu.be/D1lEQGVD1lk good luck to you all

Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate seeing what you have all concluded so far with this design. I've learned a lot from the short time working with it. Doesn't look to be the total answer everyone wants, but it sure is a concept well worth understanding. It could be the stepping stone that eventually opens things up for us, who knows.

[captainpecan]

My wonderful new nonmagnetic brass feeler gauge I ordered specifically so I can measure magnet gaps showed up. And guess what? It is silver in color and sticks right to the damn magnets, lol. Guess you get what you pay for.


Anyway, here is what I came up with this time. The numbers seem pretty consistent with what I got before, but I haven't worked with them much yet.

[citfta]

Captainpecan,


Instead of using feeler gauges I used cardboard stock like business cards are made from.  i let the magnet pull until it is against the torque plate and then tighten the magnet in place.  If your system is strong enough only one or two thicknesses of cardboard should do the trick. 


Your test results are looking good.


Take care.


PS: let me clarify that .  You let the magnet pull against the cardstock that is against the torque plate so the gap ends up being the thickness of the cardstock.

[captainpecan]

I think I figured the numbers correctly.

1st test... (original)
2214 ... 1 magnet
5342 ... 2 magnets
5342 / 2214 = 2.41

2nd test... (smaller gap)
3176.5 ... 1 magnet
7658.5 ... 2 magnets
7658.5 / 3176.5 = 2.41

Still less than 1 + 1 = 3. But greater than 2 to 1 again. The effect is confirmed by this setup. And by the same ratio both times. I will now move on to the next stage and only use electromagnets.