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Overunity Machines Forum



RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.

Started by seychelles, December 18, 2021, 10:54:04 AM

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tinman

Hi guys.

Sorry, but running behind time again--the joys of owning a business.
Also been doing some video's on this covid shit show over here.
Our premier went from ok to an absolute ass, and now has decided to discriminate against those that refuse the clot shot.
So i have been giving him shit as well.

Anyway, here is the first video on measuring an applied torque over distance, where we use a standard attraction type pulse motor as an example.

I would strongly advise those that are going to build this motor, to set up a good test bed, so as you can get everything spot on.
This will help greatly with matching all your components, so as you have the best chance at success, as there is many variables that must be matched to the equipment you are going to use for your build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQfMEJT7G1g


Brad

tinman

Ok, so here is the same test, but with the TP motor-or Torque Force motor design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KIub44uIs


Brad

seychelles

GREAT WORK TINMAN. PERSEVERANCE WILL SURELY DESTROY ALL RESISTANCE.
CLOT SHOT. NEVER HEARD AS SUCH, BUT WILL KEEP IT IN MY CLOUD FOR FUTURE
USE. I HAVE BEEN STUCK HERE IN SEYCHELLES FOR TWO YEARS NOW AND I CAN
NOT COME TO VISIT MY SON IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA DUE TO A DOUBLE MANDATE.
ONE FROM MY DARLING WIFE, NOT AND THE OTHER FROM THIS TYRANT DICTATOR
WA MINISTER.  THE REASON IS I AM AN ANTI-CLOT SHOT. GOD BLESS KEEP UP THIS
GREAT WORK.

captainpecan

@Tinman,


Great stuff, love to see the extra time to explain a bit more deeply in these videos what you are looking for and how to achieve it. I would like just a little more clarity on one thing if you will. The difference in the test between the two experiments. You mention grabbing the wrong torque plate when you did the test at your shop and that the one at your home performed better. I believe you stated it was 5 mm wider plate that you had best results with? To clarify, the test that you graphed the best results was in fact done with the "worst performing" of the two torque plates? Meaning that if you had been able to test with the material you wanted, it would have been even better difference between the two tests. Just making sure I understood you correctly.
So, if one was to perform your test exactly, would it be a torque plate 30 mm wide, and how thick? I have seen others mention getting best results with 1/8" thick. Do you concur? Your's LOOKS thinner, maybe 2mm thick? Or did you prefer thicker? Also, since I think you said the wider plate worked better, did you notice a width that seemed to no longer work any better? Was it the 30 mm plate?


Last thing I was wanting to clarify. It appears that the 1st video simply has the difference of raising the electromagnet up and out of directly in front of permanent magnet behind the plate. Am I correct in understanding that with that test, the permanent magnet is still 1 mm gap from the torque plate and still pulling the plate into the gap in both experiments, and that the ONLY difference in the test (except for grabbing different size plate) is the electromagnet is simply raised a bit higher and out of direct center alignment with the permanent magnet?


Thank you for your videos and clarification so far. I hope my questions are not annoying, as I have been working on the bench myself to fully understand what you are presenting to everyone. It's great work and I have learned so much already. Thanks again.

verpies

Quote from: tinman on February 02, 2022, 07:08:04 AM
Ok, so here is the same test, but with the TP motor-or Torque Force motor design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KIub44uIs
Your force gage is not always tangential to the flywheel. Therefore your torque measurements are subject to the cosine error.
To fix this, pull on your force gage with a strong thread (blue) attached to the flywheel's perimeter further away (brown fastener), so the line that passes through the center of the flywheel (green) and through the point where the thread stops touching the flywheel (red), always forms a right angle with the straight thread.  That red point, the force gage and its anchor point should always be colinear.