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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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stivep

Quote from: Jimboot on July 30, 2022, 06:36:58 PM
go and ask the inventor and stop getting us to answer your questions. We're building here
I'm not asking you Jimboot .
Question was not directed to you nor Solarlab.
and you  didn't provide any explanation  to the subject in question.
derailing original statement of rakarskiy.

I formulated four points question based on his statement
Quote from: rakarskiy on July 30, 2022, 12:21:01 PM
Holcomb claims everything is true, I claim that it is exactly so!
Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 



»example of expected answer in given format is here:
Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

« Reply #3730 on: Today at 12:42:11 AM »
Wesley

SolarLab

Quote from: stivep on July 30, 2022, 06:57:12 PM
I'm not asking you Jimboot .
Question was not directed to you nor Solarlab.
and you  didn't provide any explanation  to the subject in question.
derailing original statement of rakarskiy.

I formulated four points question based on his statementQuestion:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 



»example of expected answer in given format is here:
Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

« Reply #3730 on: Today at 12:42:11 AM »
Wesley

In a simpler form for you:

1. initial energy is "H" [amp-turn/length unit or Orsteds]

2. process is material B-H -- conversion is simply Faraday (et. al.) both ways

3. output energy is "B" [Tesla or Gauss]

4. initial energy "H" in amp-turn/cm (orsted) - output energy is "B" in Tesla (gauss)

Both quantities are 'Magnetic Energy' but use different names/nomenclature to distinguish between the two.

Once you understand B and H - H is the source and B is the resultant so to speak. Pretty simple actually, maybe too simple,
but not for most. More of a KISS thing.

How ever you decide to configure this Gain in your device is entirely up to you as your the designer. Coil/Lap turns, material, source
Voltage/Amps, pulse sequence, drivers, control processor, Rotor/Stator size/shape, etc.

A great deal of efficiency is also gained by the "floating magnetic field" (rotating or sliding). Again,
as the designer it's entirely up to you how that is deployed in your design. It's all there for your use.

Too simple - maybe, but not really! See the referenced book for details and formulas. See the EM CAE for proofs.


You still haven't answered my "base line setting" question:

HAVE YOU EVER USED ANY OF THE FULL 3D EM CAE TOOLS TO ANALYZE OR DESIGN ELECTROMAGNETIC DEVICES?

Without a simple, straight forward, answer I CAN NOT HELP YOU. Sorry!

You will have to direct your comments and questions elsewhere. (no need - I already know the answer based on your questions)

Also NOTE: NEW RULE - Wesley's RULES don't apply here!



kolbacict

Well, at first I supposed that this energy is taken from the virtual rotation of the field.
Because in a mechanical electric generator it is necessary to expend mechanical energy
to rotate the rotor. And here it goes, as if for free. There were even myself thoughts on
how to improve this process. But you ignored it. But now you are claiming that the excess
energy comes from amplification in the steel... All known transformers are made of steel.
But there is no OU in them.

rakarskiy

Quote from: stivep on July 30, 2022, 04:17:41 PM
Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 

Wesley

[1 - the original form of energy and its source.]

You can't say better than a definition from higher physics: Energy (ancient Greek ἐνέργεια - action, activity, force, power) is a scalar physical quantity, which is a single measure of various forms of motion and interaction of matter, a measure of the force of the transition of the movement of matter from one form to another , with the aim of eliminating in time the real forms and types of matter in the Universe, in order to bring it to a state of rest. The introduction of the concept of energy is convenient because if a physical system is closed, then its energy is stored in this system for the time during which the system will be closed. This statement is called the law of conservation of energy.

From a fundamental point of view, energy is one of three (along with momentum and angular momentum) additive integrals of motion (i.e., quantities that are conserved in time) associated, according to Noether's theorem, with the homogeneity of time, i.e., the independence of the laws describing movement, from time to time.

(from my point of view, by the term Energy I mean a system of forces and velocities that are in a special state of potential difference, which tends to balance)

Energy source, too fundamental a term. For example, a magnet emits a magnetic field with no apparent source of input energy. The launch of a magnetic field in a piece of material that makes up a magnet is a powerful electromagnetic pulse (there is a system for launching a permanent magnet from a permanent magnet). With the existence of a magnet as a source of a magnetic field, there is no supply of an external electromagnetic pulse or an external magnetic field. Counter question: what is the source of the magnetic field of a permanent magnet? I believe that there is another non-material system that controls the "energies" of our "material world", recently this system is called the "torsion field", although the field here is an incorrect interpretation.

[2. - describe the transformation process in a few words]

One Speed breeds potential speed. Speed (for doing work) absorbs potential speed.

[3. is the form of energy at the OUTPUT of the device.]

Which one do you like: thermal, kinetic or electromagnetic - the other types are not interesting for OverUnity devices!

[4. - please compare the initial energy input with the output energy in units.]

Why reinvent the wheel, in physics there is a universal unit of measurement Joule. I prefer Watts as a unit of power.
To compare, you need to have accurate power data, at the input and output, for the same period of time.

SolarLab

Quote from: kolbacict on July 31, 2022, 12:54:10 AM
Well, at first I supposed that this energy is taken from the virtual rotation of the field.
Because in a mechanical electric generator it is necessary to expend mechanical energy
to rotate the rotor. And here it goes, as if for free. There were even myself thoughts on
how to improve this process. But you ignored it. But now you are claiming that the excess
energy comes from amplification in the steel... All known transformers are made of steel.
But there is no OU in them.

Correct, the amplification comes from the "steel."  The B-H curve of the material (steel as you call it)
tells you how much amplification is theoretically available.

Note that the Holcomb devices are not transformers or motors or conventional generators. These
devices have little or nothing to do with Holcombs technology other than magnetics.

Study the losses in conventional transformers and generators and you will immediately realize
their inefficiencies are huge; that's why they are generally much less than 1.

As stated above - the "floating magnetic field" nearly eliminates these conventional inefficiencies.

There are several processes as explained in the technical details and patents. Read them.

This has been covered in this thread many times. Go back an read some of the stuff for comprehension.

"The wheels of this bus go round-and-round, round-and-round. The wheels of the bus go round-and-round!"

What ever... If this is a hard concept for you to figure out - well, what ever.