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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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bistander

Cadman,
Your earlier post today indicates you feel there is a need to consider the magnetic circuits in Holcomb's devices. I agree. I not attempting to derail anybody. In fact I made several suggestions to assist replications.

From the start I've been looking at HES from the magnetic vantage. And what's shown doesn't make sense.
bi

Jimboot

Quote from: Lunkster on August 07, 2022, 06:46:07 PM
Hi,

I have a question:
The Holcomb designs look like the original design was for a rotating generator.
Was the physical design for this generator originally suppose to rotate?
OR, was the design purposely made similar to rotating generators for
the easier manufacturing of the generator. Or, why?

The reason I ask is because other motionless generators look so much
different than his designs.  It sure would by nice to see some of the prototypes
that Holcomb went through to get to the current designs.

It would be nice to know the "Ah Ha" moments during the many years of
the development of these devices.

Does anyone know of some of those moments?

Lunkster
You need to watch Ellen's presentation listed earlier in the thread. The first version had 47 spinning rotors. It explains what you are after.

Cadman

Quote from: bistander on August 07, 2022, 07:45:10 PM
Cadman,
Your earlier post today indicates you feel there is a need to consider the magnetic circuits in Holcomb's devices. I agree. I not attempting to derail anybody. In fact I made several suggestions to assist replications.

From the start I've been looking at HES from the magnetic vantage. And what's shown doesn't make sense.
bi

bi, and everyone else

I woke up this morning with a thought in my head that bugs me. The magnetic circuit I described here https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg569750/#msg569750 may be a construct to avoid.
I recalled seeing a post somewhere that there was a mu-metal sleeve between the center shaft and rotor laminates. If that is true then the only reason for it would be to block the magnetic path I described.

So bi and Ufo are probably correct.
Ufo, if you attach the shaft to the stator housing and your output goes away you will know the reason why.



bistander

Yes, Fig_5, item#130 is identified as mu metal sleeve on pages 30-31. It will not block magnetic field, or flux, so I fail to see a function. And, although I've not read entire document, I don't see a reason or function stated. If they desired to keep flux from being 'conducted' by or through the shaft, why not just use stainless steel (non-magnetic)?
bi

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Cadman on August 08, 2022, 08:32:32 AM
bi, and everyone else

I woke up this morning with a thought in my head that bugs me. The magnetic circuit I described here https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg569750/#msg569750 may be a construct to avoid.
I recalled seeing a post somewhere that there was a mu-metal sleeve between the center shaft and rotor laminates. If that is true then the only reason for it would be to block the magnetic path I described.

So bi and Ufo are probably correct.
Ufo, if you attach the shaft to the stator housing and your output goes away you will know the reason why.

Hello Cadman,

Thanks for the advice...
The way I am conducting testings as of now, I do not use any insulation between static rotor tooth faces and stator tooth faces...means they are in metal to metal contact...and probably I will do use some high temp tape to isolate them...and run same tests again...
And honestly, I really do not know what difference it would make to "bridge" the outer part of stator to the rotor core with a steel member...honestly.
Generators normally do not do it...and most have the two end caps (where shaft bearings are mounted) made of Aluminum, or other non ferromagnetic material.
Now, for Electrical Ground of the whole embodiment, yes...it is a requirement, but aluminum conducts electricity very well, not the Flux.

Kind regards

Ufopolitics


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