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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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SolarLab

Quote from: kolbacict on December 16, 2022, 12:24:07 PM
I already spoke here, but no one heard me.
Extra motion for rotating feld could give a magnetic speed-up gearbox that is used for mechanical transmissions. For this offer alone, Robert should have taken me into his company and provided me with free beer and lobsters for life. 8)

Hi Kolbacict,

I (still) hear you!    Good observations...

BUT - as I see it; the LinGen (or HES) doesn't need "extra motion" as used in a "magnetic speed-up gearbox" effect.

To increase the "speed" of the sliding (or rotating) Magnetic Field all that needs to be done is increase the input Frequency (Pulse Rate).
This is, of course, design dependant - Wire Coil design (Inductance) and Magnetic Material (B-H Loop) performance. Increasing the
Frequency and/or increasing the Current (within limits of the system) will increase output.

Sorry, no free beer and lobster this week, but, just maybe for your next idea!  ;)

So please - keep 'em comming... always appreciate any ideas and thoughts!

SL




onepower

bistander
QuoteWhat motion?
Nothing moves on Holcomb's device, no physical part, just moving charges input, traveling magnetic flux (RMF), and moving charges output.

Your contradiction in the first sentence is why I like to use the term motion to describe energy. First your claim nothing moves (physically) then explaining how everything is in fact moving on some level. I get it, everyone seems to do it, I just disagree with the concept.

Many don't understand "Energy is Motion" and were simple changing the level on which the motion occurs ie. linear motion of an object to molecular motion as heat. The energy is conserved because the motion is conserved. This includes all forms of matter and Electro-Magnetic fields. For example, an electron moves>>>it's electric field moves>>>this produces a moving/changing magnetic field>>>this induces a force on other electrons>>>an electron moves. The connection between every form of energy is motion.

QuoteYes, like a transformer, but transformers use varying flux magnitude, and Holcomb's device uses flux displacement. Obviously a displacement of flux, or of a field, requires time, similar to a change in flux magnitude, or field strength. Some argue they're the same thing. I believe they are different, but have the same effect and obey superposition principle. Induced voltage results from either or both.

I claimed either generator or transformer rules apply because the load doesn't care whether the magnet is moving or it's magnetic field is moving. This is why Faraday said it doesn't matter how the "field change" occurs only that it does. The fact remains that according to conventional theory we can move the material stuff or it's fields any way we can imagine but at the end of the day the Energy/motion is always conserved.

Playing word games, special descriptions, equations and terminologies, simulations/graphics and such cannot change these facts in the real world. Which is why Holcomb having little idea where the extra energy actually came from claimed it was the "extra motion" of electron spins in the iron cores. Do you see the connection?, the extra motion of the electron spins translates to the extra motion of the electrons in the load conductors as a current. However, that cannot explain where the extra motion of the electron spins in the iron came from in the first place, hence our dilemma.

AC

SolarLab


Hey AC - that's the lamest "Red Face duck" excuse I've seen in a long while!

Thanks for the humor... 

:)

BTW # No real excuses anymore - get a laser diode cutter, a few sheets of magnetic metal
and prove to yourself "the HES tech" works... (see my post above) Ergo - Hope you see the connection! 

Also, in a recent post you infered the HES had to relate to a transformer, however consider this:

"Magnetic Induction" - take a simple magnet, attach an iron bar to one of the pole ends, the "iron bar" will
become a Magnet due to magnetic induction. Put a non-magnetic piece between them and they become independant.
You need a ferrious metal to achieve decent coupling - air is a poor magnetic flux conductor at low frequencies.

Or, wrap a wire coil around a nail, add a battery to the coil, bring another nail with a coil close to the battery coil nail end;
magnetic induction, via the nails, will set up a current in the second coil as the mutual inductive fields expand and
contract. The air spacing between the nails ensures the two circuits are (somewhat) isolated. If the nail ends touch one
coil will interact with the other; like what happens in a transformer.

Of course since motors rotate they can't have a solid connection between the stator and rotor. HES seperates them for
isolation.

NOTE: We learned where the "excess energy" comes from in our Grade 7 or 8 Physics classes. Alignment of the iron's
tiny natural atomic magnets, wow, just like aligning a bunch of the big brother ones! Welcome to Scientific Science.

Been that way since the beginning of time and will likely stay that way for a while! (attached)

bistander

Quote from: onepower on December 16, 2022, 07:30:34 PM
bistander
Your contradiction in the first sentence is why I like to use the term motion to describe energy. First your claim nothing moves (physically) then explaining how everything is in fact moving on some level. I get it, everyone seems to do it, I just disagree with the concept.

...
AC

Yes, AC, I've read your take on it before.
So when you say "There is no free lunch and the most obvious question is where is the extra motion on the input?", you really mean "There is no free lunch and the most obvious question is where is the extra energy on the input?", right?

Isn't that the whole point of Holcomb's invention? There is no extra energy on the input. The device makes it inside the iron and delivers it on the output. That's what we're supposed to buy.

So I'll answer your obvious question. There is no extra energy on the input, hence no extra energy on the output.
bi

SolarLab

It's like a "heavier than air" object - it simply can't fly!

Stay safe - drive...
  8)

  Then of course, after all the nonsense and such - I say KITE...
Magnetically levitated "of course"...

:)