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Started by r2fpl, March 21, 2023, 11:47:39 AM

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Dog-One

Quote from: apecore on March 25, 2023, 10:48:41 AM
In the frequency range between 1 and  9 Mhz i saw some eye opening frequency points.
Here is where you have to come in.

You should see on a spectrum f1 + f2, f1 - f2 and any derivatives that
can form from those four frequencies within the grenade.  I would
venture a guess, some of those frequencies like your grenade and
boost, while others are dampened by your grenade and diminish.

Then it's a matter of calculating why you are getting what you are
getting so we can do it repeatedly.

apecore

Quote from: Dog-One on March 25, 2023, 12:03:56 PM
You should see on a spectrum f1 + f2, f1 - f2 and any derivatives that
can form from those four frequencies within the grenade.  I would
venture a guess, some of those frequencies like your grenade and
boost, while others are dampened by your grenade and diminish.

Then it's a matter of calculating why you are getting what you are
getting so we can do it repeatedly.

I dont have a spectrumanalyser, and would not know how to handle tye data.

Is there another way?
Lets do it otherway around.

Do we need 100% in phase at all parameters? Or is it hetter to have antenna out of phase  90dgr?
Or must we look for other combination?

Assuming all in phase is best ....this would be 1.45Mhz.(inductor not in phase)... or 3.2Mhz
If 3.2 is legimit then the grenade induction is to low.... i dont want to past the 2.0Mhz


Dog-One

Quote from: apecore on March 25, 2023, 01:33:11 PM
I dont have a spectrumanalyser, and would not know how to handle tye data.

I'm certain your scope has a math function with FFT.
Use that and look for frequency peaks.

Quote from: apecore on March 25, 2023, 01:33:11 PM
Do we need 100% in phase at all parameters? Or is it hetter to have antenna out of phase  90dgr?
Or must we look for other combination?

Think about what "phase" means.  It's just the point in the wave
where you are measuring at.  Keep in mind, unless you inject the
signal at the very end of the grenade (which you are not), the phase
will be advanced by some amount (30cm per nanosecond from the
end).  The signal then will propagate in both directions from the
injection point.

Quote from: apecore on March 25, 2023, 01:33:11 PM
Assuming all in phase is best ....this would be 1.45Mhz.(inductor not in phase)... or 3.2Mhz
If 3.2 is legimit then the grenade induction is to low.... i dont want to past the 2.0Mhz

So are you classifying "grenade induction" as the signal coming
from the push-pull?  Or is that the signal coming from the Tesla
coil?  And if it is that, what are you calling the other signal?

apecore

Quote from: Dog-One on March 25, 2023, 02:25:17 PM
I'm certain your scope has a math function with FFT.
Use that and look for frequency peaks.


I see... roger.
Tbc

apecore

Quote from: Dog-One on March 25, 2023, 02:25:17 PM


So are you classifying "grenade induction" as the signal coming
from the push-pull?  Or is that the signal coming from the Tesla
coil?  And if it is that, what are you calling the other signal?

From tesla... antenne.
So infact kacher frequency versus grenade voltage and current...
Inductor loop out of scope for the moment

So what i understand these figures dont bring us further?