Free Energy Claims?

[SolarLab]

Hi SL,

I totally disagree about testing and building anything that you need money to do so.

If you have the skills and some tools you should be able to build any  prototype. There are many people like myself who would help other to build a simple prototype.

This money BS is why people are hesitant to even try to help others. Not to be rude, but when people ask for money because they can't build it themselves and won't give people the information of how to help build a prototype, it really question their true motive!

Many people on this forum would be willing to help, you don't need to have a lot of money to test a theory or even make working prototype.

Some prototypes can even be made out of wood or other cheap materials.

Tom

Hi Tom,

The only guy I've seen on the forums asking for money is the HHO fellow. There may be others however.

Even with a full CNC machine shop including a Laser Cutter, the basic materials cost money and the exotic
electrical steels including powder SMC, etc. can be expensive plus the special processing (e.g. 800MPa) is
not cheap even if you do the molds yourself and have the press - having it done external can cost 5-10X.

A major problem I see all the time is people cludging something; and even if it works, they haven't taken the
time to perfect (or even do) the engineering and other development - so it's pretty much useless when you
need to manufacture it (or even just duplicate it).

Professional Engineering Tools cost money to purchase and maintain plus they require a skill set as well - so
does good technical writing. Even physical structure and tolerance can mean the difference between success
and failure.

It's good to present ideas, patents, and other stuff in the forums, however it's nearly impossible to provide
a complete set of details, including proper drawings, schematics, assembly notes and diagrams. etc. on a
forum with it's significant limitations.

I've tried it and it was not anywhere near successful (even when not considering all the distractions and other
crap).  Forums are just not up to supporting the required tasks. That's why you have not seen anything here.
Many ideas start out on the forums but they quickly fade as they develop (e.g. Ruslan) - they continue but
you don't see them on forums after a while, that's all.

Most of these devices are complex in their operation and theory, as I've shown above, and are not as simple
as they may appear. That does not mean they are fake, it only means they appear simple on their face, but
are deceptively complex once you analyze them.

Of course I could be mistaken; but any devices that reach the market (even one-off) will cost money and take
some time.

SL

[endlessoceans]

Hi Tom,

The only guy I've seen on the forums asking for money is the HHO fellow. There may be others however.

Even with a full CNC machine shop including a Laser Cutter, the basic materials cost money and the exotic
electrical steels including powder SMC, etc. can be expensive plus the special processing (e.g. 800MPa) is
not cheap even if you do the molds yourself and have the press - having it done external can cost 5-10X.

A major problem I see all the time is people cludging something; and even if it works, they haven't taken the
time to perfect (or even do) the engineering and other development - so it's pretty much useless when you
need to manufacture it (or even just duplicate it).

Professional Engineering Tools cost money to purchase and maintain plus they require a skill set as well - so
does good technical writing. Even physical structure and tolerance can mean the difference between success
and failure.

It's good to present ideas, patents, and other stuff in the forums, however it's nearly impossible to provide
a complete set of details, including proper drawings, schematics, assembly notes and diagrams. etc. on a
forum with it's significant limitations.

I've tried it and it was not anywhere near successful (even when not considering all the distractions and other
crap).  Forums are just not up to supporting the required tasks. That's why you have not seen anything here.
Many ideas start out on the forums but they quickly fade as they develop (e.g. Ruslan) - they continue but
you don't see them on forums after a while, that's all.

Most of these devices are complex in their operation and theory, as I've shown above, and are not as simple
as they may appear. That does not mean they are fake, it only means they appear simple on their face, but
are deceptively complex once you analyze them.

Of course I could be mistaken; but any devices that reach the market (even one-off) will cost money and take
some time.

SL

Totally agree

most people dont have enough time or technical aptitude to replicate these ver complicated devices and most of the designs as presented do not put out enough energy to even fulfil a quarter of a homes energy needs.  So in the end you build a very expensive curiosity that will neither make or save you any money.
I have seen devices and priciples that show change is possible.  The world is not ready to accept it and the wicked forces above governments will ensure every drop of oil is used before then.

I am a realist and a truth seeker.  I love these inventors and the truth they seek but the tide of opposition is great against them

Members here sometimes cry about opensource and giving away things but they themselves dont do much.  Not all....but most

[SolarLab]

Totally agree

most people dont have enough time or technical aptitude to replicate these ver complicated devices and most of the designs as presented do not put out enough energy to even fulfil a quarter of a homes energy needs.  So in the end you build a very expensive curiosity that will neither make or save you any money.
I have seen devices and priciples that show change is possible.  The world is not ready to accept it and the wicked forces above governments will ensure every drop of oil is used before then.

I am a realist and a truth seeker.  I love these inventors and the truth they seek but the tide of opposition is great against them

Members here sometimes cry about opensource and giving away things but they themselves dont do much.  Not all....but most

I actually started "small" - just wanted something to charge a Cell Phone - and it looked like one
embodiment of Holcomb's patent had just the thing (what I called the "LinGen").

After a bit of "innovating" it looks like the LinGen can also power my Electric Lawnmower. Nice, since the
40VDC LithiumIon battery now costs about $150us and has to be re-charged. Still a work-in-progress
however.  Maybe stack a few, add an inverter, and run a Split AC unit. Still need a SuperCAP for strat-up.

Won't set the World on fire; but at least you can cut the grass and then cool off while having a beer on
the deck - for (sorta) free - have to buy the parts, the AC and the beer - but you can do it by the lake
without a long cord!

Anyway, good luck and take care!
SL

[Dog-One]

Many people on this forum would be willing to help, you don't need to have a lot of money to test a theory or even make working prototype.

Some prototypes can even be made out of wood or other cheap materials.

Tom, you are the mechanical guy, I like electronics, so here's one
for you to just take a peek at, maybe toss a few scraps at it and
see what it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJBW_gebmms

He draws pretty good pictures and the video has subtitles.  If there
is anything there, surely you will spot it.