Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[CTG Labs]

Sean,

Whats your location in the UK?


Dave.

Cornwall this end Dave

What about you?

Regards

Sean.

London...

[hartiberlin]

Hi Dave,
good to see your motor running longer and
better with the feedback.

Can you please post a few scopeshots,
so we can see, how and when and how long the trigger
coils starts the transistors to conduct ?

As I still have a hard time to intepret the scopeshots
from Mike, I really need some other scopeshots to
compare them versus the ones from Mike.

How long will the transistors stay in conduction mode ?

Maybe Mike did also invert at least one
coil in its outer connections, so we might have
a 180 degrees phase shift in one coil ?

What I also realized is now, that Mike INDEED DID INVERT
the scopeshots !

As he took the first scopeshots directly at the coils,
if you apply a positive voltage to a coil and cut off the
current, immediately you always get a NEGATIVE going voltage BackEMF pulse !

As Mike?s scopeshots had the pulses into the POSITIVE direction, we know, he must have accidently put the
scopehead pins 180 degrees turned around onto the coils
or had a pressed INVERT button at the scope input.

So we now know, that we have to invert all the scopeshots
from Mike, as all have the spikes going positive, which in
fact must go into the negative direction !

Then these scopeshots also make sense !


P.S: To All who are replicating in this moment
the Mike motor and also have a scope.

Could you please post a few scopeshots,
also directly the voltage at the cap and
the current into the cap at a shunt
and the voltage at all 2 or 3 coils ?
(Dom is only having 2 coils so far)

I really need to compare your scopeshots
with Mike?s scopeshots to see, when exactly
the switching of the transistors take place
and some other things.
It does not matter, if you don?t yet have the
HALL IC and the SS Relay, but it would be
good, if you have this 3 transistor circuit already
running with at least the first 2 coils.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

P.S: The negative very short duration BackEMF pulses of the Mike motor
don?t have the right polarity to charge up the cap,
but they are also too short to have any big impact !

The pulses which really charge up the cap in Mike?s Motor
are the pulses, that are in between that event during the SS Relay on
and off phase.
If you invert all the scope shots from Mike you can see it even better,
that the voltage of this time interval always increases during the 3 or 4 cycles
seen on the scope.

So the spikes have a more negative impact not to
charge the cap, so it probably would run best, if the coils
don?t have too much inductance, so the spike energy is less.
So the Mike Motor does not run on Radiant Energy as there is
also no battery involved, where it could be converted into
real energy.
So it is very different from the motors of John Bedini, who need
to create these pulses to convert the Radiant Energy directly inside
the batteries ( probably due to the slow ion movement of the electrolyte?s ions..)

I guess the Mike motor just converts on very tricky way via coil
configuation switching just the available constant magnetflux into
electrical energy.

Regards, Stefan.

[corona]

I'm currently in the process of making a new coil, so once that's done I'll be able to take some scope shots.

The only decent length of wire available to me is far too thin, around 0.1mm or smaller, so i'm making a 12 core twisted strand, which I can then join together in multitudes of configurations to test out different coil configurations. There's actually two slightly different diameter wires, they both look like 0.1mm on the small scale of the (high precision) vernier's I'm using at work, but the reisistances are quite different, I think one might be 0.08mm and the other 0.12mm. So in my final twisted wire I'll have 6 strands of thin, 6 strands of thick, lots of different configurations to try there.

I'm going to set up a turns counter too when I make my final coil, so as to have some comprehensive specs on my coil.

I'll post some pictures of my twisting & winding apparatus I set up if anyone wants some extra ideas on how to make bifilar/trifilar twisted wire.

Andrew

[hartiberlin]

Here are the 1st and second main and 3rd coil scope shots corrected.
( Inverted and commented)

Watch how the flat line in the coil2 scopeshot
is the cap voltage when this coil2
is switched across the cap via the transistors.

You can see, that the cap voltage is just increasing over time !


In the scope shot of the 3rd coil,
you can see at point A in time always the 3rd coil
is put via the graetz diodes onto the main 2nd coil
and that Point A then shows the cap voltage.
You can see, that this Point A voltage increases over time.


Also the negative spikes would normall discharge the
cap and just the switching of the SS Relay of the third coil
to the main 2nd coil brings this additional energy somehow in.

It is a case for dL/dt switching and research.
Maybe it has also to do with parametrical
excited resonance via the dL/dt change.

Regards, Stefan.