Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[Hoppy]

Let's try to resume the facts.
What was introduced in Mike's design?
1. the relay
2. the third coil
3. details about the size of the coils (ohmic)

What we still don't know? (other questions might arise later)
1. Is important to mark in schematic the start of the third coil with respect to the same winding sense?
2. What (hiden) role plays the solid state relay? Can this be replaced with a reed switch? If not, we need to determine what makes all the difference if we use the relay. Can be used another type of solid state relay?
3. What would be an optimum ratio between the windings? The size mathers? How much? (but this point 3 is for tunning, first most important thing is to succesfully replicate the motor by as many as possible).

Any other opinions are more than welcomed.

Does the relay actually turn off?
Is the cap in fact faulty? It would appear to be so.

[barbosi]

Does the relay actually turn off?
Is the cap in fact faulty? It would appear to be so.

I only resumed what we know and what we don't, trying to get organised some tests ment to extract the theory of operation.

I have not replicated yet the setup, however I would like to understand how this is working.

[hartiberlin]

Here are dual channel scope shots from Mike.

He did scope the main ( 2nd coil) and the trigger coil ( 1st coil)
and the second scope shot is the main coil with the 3rd coil ( induction coil)

This is the voltage on the coils without the coils being connected to anything else.
The rotor just was spun by hand .

You can see, that the main coil has a much higher output voltage, cause
it has more turns of wire.

This test was just to see, how the voltage would look on the coils,
when the rotor was spun by hand.
The induction  looks like a real sine wave.
If I used my Newman magnet rotor inside a Newman coil,
I had more like a Sine^2 function induction voltage.

Regards, Stefan.

Attched the 2 pics.

[hartiberlin]

Here are 3 pics from Dave, Marco and Dom,
who are currently replicating the Mike motor.

Dave is only missing his new magnets
and Dom needs to change a few things
on his coil switching and Marco still needs
needs to build the switching circuit.

Hopefully we will soon see a working replication.

Stay tuned.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

By studying the scope trace from coil 3, I would sugest also another modification as shown in the picture. It should bring two more spiks on the down slope. It should charge the capacitor faster.

Why are there 2 spikes anyway? beats me for now... other important things are runing now.

Hmm Barbosi,
I wonder, if your idea does not short out
the 3rd coil all in all ?

I guess the blue diode must go somehwere else....hmmm..
ponder...ponder...