Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[helmut]

Hi all.  Helmut, if you refer to Mikes original diagram, Just fit the reed in place of the SS relay shown in the diagram, and do not use a hall effect device. I think this is what Hartiberlin means. Personally, I would trigger this read by a small magnet fitted to a seperate wheel on the end of the shaft, rather than the main magnets. This way you can vary the timing. Also, could we all be nicer to Stefan, he is only doing his best to help us all.....

Hi Neptune

You are absolutely right!

And i hope that Stefan has got a big Skin.
I think,that the hole Story is more exciting than a thriller in TV.

[fesearcher]

Hi Stefan,
you suggest to try to connenct L2 and L3 by hand triggered switch. You must be kidding!
The motor runs at about 3 rotations per seconds, 3 pair of magnets makes it 9 trigger moments per second. The switch has to be closed at the right time this is impossible to be done by hand. It could work but it rather won't.
PK

[CTG Labs]

Hi Stefan,
you suggest to try to connenct L2 and L3 by hand triggered switch. You must be kidding!

I think the excitement has gotten to him, hes lost it!


D.

[Hoppy]

There is a basic question in all this which is keeping me awake at nights. I am not the worlds best when it comes to circuits, but I aint stupid either. Referring to Mikes original diagram, every body talks about the SS relay putting the motor coil in series with coil 3. I challenge anybody to explain the current path when this happens.
        Suppose the motor coil puts out a pulse of current, as it must if it helps to charge the Capacitor. Its polarity is dependant on which main magnet pole is where ,at the instant the SS relay closes. The only output path from the lower end of the motor coil on the diagram is through the NPN transistor just below it . Current can flow through this transistor if it is switched on. The only problem is, the return path to the motor coil is via the diode near the Bridge rectifier, and this is not possible due to the diode being wrong way round.
                  If current tries to flow in the opposite direction, it is blocked by the NPN transistor, whether it is switched on or off.Is this what Mike meant when he said " taking into account the diode" ? Did I miss some thing here? Is this diode unique amongst diodes in that it will pass current in either direction? Cold it have been blown by overvoltage, and have become conductive in either direction? Dont just ignore this Inconvenient Truth, Post your oppinions please.............Neptune

I too have just noticed this. There is no path for current through the SS relay and third coil. The third coil is neither connected in parallel or series with the main coil!

[CTG Labs]

Mike only drew the circuit out when we asked for it, he then traced the wires back.  He did not have a diagram before hand, so in his rush it could be he just drew it back to front, there is no way to know now.


Dave.