Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physic

[pequaide]

The tension in the string builds slowly; so they don?t need to be as strong as you may think.

I use 20 lb and 30 lb test Berkley Fireline. The strings are eventually worn by roughness in the slit; they need to be replaced after about 100 tests. The wire loops that are inserted in the drilled spheres are made of braided fishing wire in about the same 20 lb test range. They break also at about 200 tests.

The open diameter of the spheres (distance between the spheres center of mass) of the black cylinder seated in the arms is 10 inches and the closed diameter is 5 inches. This double radius was done by design, because the spheres stop the cylinder with or without a slit. The slit is only there to allow time for the video tape to catch the stopped motion of the cylinder.

If the open diameter of the spheres is double the closed diameter the initial and final radius of rotation of the sphere remains the same, because when the cylinder is stopped the radius of rotation is not the original center of the cylinder, the new radius of rotation when the cylinder is stopped is the side of the cylinder were the string comes through a hole. In this way the initial radius of rotation of the spheres is 2.5 inches, and the final radius of rotation of the sphere is 2.5 inches. I did this for those that were using angular momentum formulas; this made the application of angular momentum useless because radius of rotation did not change. It would be perfectly legitimate to secure the cylinder in place when it is stopped and force the radius of rotation of the sphere to remain 2.5 inches, locking the cylinder when it is stopped removes no momentum from the system. And this jamming of the stopped cylinder would have no affect upon the momentum of the spheres either. I have not locked the stopped cylinder and the spheres will start it back up again.

I myself, like Galileo, know that the radius of rotation has no affect upon momentum. In this particular example the momentum of the sphere does not change when the string enters the slit in the cylinder, but the radius changed from 2.5 in. to 5 inches.

When the string that connects the spheres is in the slit you must use the 5 inch radius for calculations.  For example: when the string moves 2.54 cm in the slit the sphere itself has moved 5.08 cm.

The sphere in this model (G in the log book) has a mass of 66.2 g.   Two spheres will be 132.4 g.

The 5 inch coupler has a mass of 367.2 g at a diameter of 4.81 (center of mass/momentum) inches.

Inside the coupler is a 4 inch (inside diameter) pipe that has a mass of 52.4 g at a diameter of 4.32 inches. This added mass is how you get the cylinder to stop (with a fixed radius of 2.5 inches) just as the string enters the slit. You can adjust the radius or adjust the mass.

In the hand held models previously pictured the closed radius is 4 inches and the open radius is 9.5 inches. This is a proportionally larger open radius, but it also stops a larger mass with roughly the same mass spheres. 395 +208 +20 about 623 grams instead of about 367.2 + 52.4 g about 419.6 g.

An engineering friend from GM placed friction at 3 % per gear, with a 300% increase in one fourth turn I think we can handle it.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

the design is clever, of that there is no question, and i applaud your design as exception drive length from an initial motion, however there are 2 problems which none can deny, like yourself i built many a device that could not be used in a commercial sense, as this to could never be built on a large scale to produce quantifiable energy as you rely on specific materials that change in abilities the the size increases, you have built a fly line for trout, you can not catch a larger trout with a larger line as it will as you increase, become weighty and sink, and to the point where even casting becomes impossible, there are many anomalies in physics overlooked by the very best, material choice is a common error, and equipment will often not function when it has to be changed.

Many a thread here is testament to that very thing in conductors, they all carry current, but they all have limits and purpose.

Your greatest error was Galileo, He  understood that momentum was not affected by radius,  unlike yourself, he understood it and taught it in respect to planetary movement. He was of course refferring to planets drifting out into greater orbits, and to that end was the main derivative for Newton to calculate (steal someone else's discovery) that an object in motion will continue forever if uninterrupted by another force or action, you fail to consider you rotating sphere is connected to your machine and is affected by other forces, both gravitational weight, friction from bearing/bush as not applied to Galileo's thoughts on planetary movement, it was always noted that this was not applicable on earth without consideration of these factors.

Lastly i seam to be missing the generator?? the part where this generates power? the primary friction component, or is this an experiment in self perpetuity and not overunity or perpetual motion, go back to the ring magnets on the pole, two ring magnets north facing north on a post, the gravity endlessly trying to pull the upper magnet down, whilst the lower constantly fights to hold it up, until the planet or magnet dies, self perpetuity exists right there.

But I'm sure you have it in hand

[leeroyjenkinsii]

OK guys...how viable is this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y9wktSQdyaE

[The Eskimo Quinn]

for your device velocity can only be measured by percentage against each other.

EG when you finish building the device (I am granting you that it will work)

It does not just start turning correct?!  because it is not a version of an unbalanced wheel that cannot stay balanced (although no design i ever saw claimed that, they had to be held heavy end up first and released) therefore it must have a thrust start point to get it going, all engines must be started even an orbiting planet has to get its first push.

This is the difficulty, for instance my device goes at what ever speed i propell it to up to any intrusive vibration point, it does not get any faster, and has a minimal speed requirement to set off replication, as does yours (in other words a gentle breath of air or push with you finger would not work. so velocity cannot be measure from an operational point without knowing speed of wheel friction etc,

However the velocity of travel in your design is fairly basic except the creation of correctional inertia which is a high drag problem for the machine.

For the others reading correctional inertia is where an object traveling in a perfect circle has equal inertia applied at all points equally during travel, image a car at the circular velodrome style tracks like your old circle electric car track, now whilst the car at set speed is travelling around your 100 foot circle (i made it that big to actually change the track during a circuit) the car goes past, you unclip the track and make the curve tighter going inside the circle, as the car comes round again it will likely roll on the corner or massive extra g forces will apply, huge friction!

The design of this device has a similar structure using an inward spiraling track design for want of better terminology, thus creating a shorter route for some componets to shift counter weights than others, Exceptionally clever design as i said earlier, but this addition friction is equal to the cheat short cut you gain by cutting the corner, the velocity of each of the 3 items is equally lower as the distance is shortened due to the increase in friction the tighter the turn, the old porche whips faster around the sharp corner due to shorter distance and that is how you arrived at your figures, weight over time and distance, but you left out the massive increase in g force at the corner reduction, and the massive torque against the tyres of the porche.

Sorry, love it though, very inventive and clever, it reminds me of an old design i played with, you may wish to think about this (i can't build your invention for you but i can give you a few pointers)

take a bullet, place it in a wide arc circular track and then another and another, the arc being wide enough so as not to affect the flight of the round from the bullets placed close to each other.

detonate the first, each bullet striking the pin in front of the other until all have fired, now use the same concept with a fixed in place recharging shell and spring return for the bullet/pin. use the momentum of the bullet round as your power source for electricity, now you only need to work out what is the power that forces out the pin to strike and release this pin/bullet in front, compressed air from the generator?? who knows it may already be part of your design, just remember, when you fire a semi automatic it reloads itself out of a minimal byproduct of the main carriage.

It's not a pendulum if you pull it back and push it forward, no momentum required.

[Kator01]

Hello,

due to a trojan-virus entering my system while I was trying to upload 2 pictures I will not post here as long as the moderator gets active to eliminate this shit.

@pequaide : I have a simple modification of your cylinder & spheres set-up which will show the energy-gain ( if there is any )  in a simply, certain and direct way without complicated video-technique, but I will wait til this forum is clean of this trojan-shit and the responsible advertising-website embedded here is disclosed.

Regards

Kator