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Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physic

Started by pequaide, February 17, 2007, 01:39:49 PM

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Evil Roy Slade

Quote from: pequaide on November 14, 2007, 08:01:17 PM
d = 1/2v?/a; if velocity is 1 m/sec rise (d) is .051 m, if velocity is 2 m/sec rise is .2038 m. (a) is acceleration 9.81 m/sec  d = 1/2v?/a   or   Ã¢Ë†Å¡2ad = v

If by any means you can transfer the momentum of a massive object to a smaller portion of itself you have made energy. The cylinder and spheres is one means and the rolling ring is probably another.

Yes I see your theory now. The problem is that momentum is a property of the moving mass. Whereever the mass goes, the momentum must go with it. A moving body cannot simply lose mass. The best a body can do is split up into two masses in which case each will have its own momentum based on the velocity at the time of split and the mass of each body.

Therefore the presumption that the velocity of a body will double if it loses half its mass is false.
I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken.    Oscar Wilde.

DarkLight

You don't need to change mass when you want to change velocity.

It's enough to convert a part of linear momentum into angular or angular to linear .

You can convert linear motion into 2 circular with opposite directions, and so you have no change in angular momentum of the whole system, but you have change in linear momentum, because part of the energy of the moving body is converted in energy of angular motion.

Evil Roy Slade

Quote from: hansvonlieven on November 13, 2007, 10:03:32 PM
Sorry Roy,

even if they sit on a rigid bar welded to the arms it will still work, a little uncomfortable perhaps, but it will still work.

Hans von Lieven
Hi Hans,

I know this is trivial but thought you may be interested. I sent two of my junior staff to the park this afternoon armed with two nice big sturdy G Clamps. Their instructions were to clamp the seats ( face to face type) to the two rigid supports so that the seats could not pivot. And then to try and get a swing going.

The result....total failure! No swing possible. I suspect not even with a good jazz player in the background if I had one.

As I said, trivial....but interesting.

ERS
I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken.    Oscar Wilde.

hansvonlieven

@ P-motion

Where in the sphere would you mount the fulcrum and how would you keep it swinging perpendicular to the ground for gravity to act upon?

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hansvonlieven

G'day P-motion,

I am having difficulty picturing what you are telling me. Aassuming you mount a number of pendula inside a sphere where would they be and what would they do when at "rest".

Please draw me a diagram, I am at a loss.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx